THE ERA OF TRUMP

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WaPo's not happy,
The agency that has been the main target of efforts to fire feds faster dismissed more than 500 employees this year — even before a new accountability law took effect.

Since the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) shamed itself in 2014 with a scandal over the coverup of long patient wait times, Capitol Hill politicians have demanded that the agency accelerate sacking — as if that were the main measure of good personnel administration. Department leaders joined the call and perpetuated the impression that life would be better if only more derelicts could be dumped.

Now we know that VA has dumped plenty.

Its first public posting, released Friday, of adverse actions against employees, terminations, suspensions and demotions, showed that the department fired 525 staffers from Jan. 20, when President Trump took office, through July 3.

The number of staffers dismissed should not be confused with effective human resource management. A certain percentage of terminations is inevitable in any organization, particularly during probationary periods. Yet, an excessive and perverse focus on firing makes that a valued metric, instead of more attention on measures encouraging the agency, its managers and its employees to succeed.
anything Trump does is evil, especially if it means firing overpaid bureaucrats who don't do their fucking jobs.

you know who else fired people, don'tcha? that's right, hitler.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:In all fairness to the Frankfurt School, the were working at a time when being disillusioned with their particular deathscape might have been appropriate, and maybe even a teeny bit prescient.
lol, no.
Many of these theorists believed that traditional theory could not adequately explain the turbulent and unexpected development of capitalist societies in the twentieth century. Critical of both capitalism and Soviet socialism, their writings pointed to the possibility of an alternative path to social development.
Translation,

Marx told them capitalism would collapse, but it didn't. Meanwhile, marxism's kill count was at around a hundred million, and getting pretty untenable.
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Okeefenokee wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Image
WaPo's not happy,
The agency that has been the main target of efforts to fire feds faster dismissed more than 500 employees this year — even before a new accountability law took effect.

Since the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) shamed itself in 2014 with a scandal over the coverup of long patient wait times, Capitol Hill politicians have demanded that the agency accelerate sacking — as if that were the main measure of good personnel administration. Department leaders joined the call and perpetuated the impression that life would be better if only more derelicts could be dumped.

Now we know that VA has dumped plenty.

Its first public posting, released Friday, of adverse actions against employees, terminations, suspensions and demotions, showed that the department fired 525 staffers from Jan. 20, when President Trump took office, through July 3.

The number of staffers dismissed should not be confused with effective human resource management. A certain percentage of terminations is inevitable in any organization, particularly during probationary periods. Yet, an excessive and perverse focus on firing makes that a valued metric, instead of more attention on measures encouraging the agency, its managers and its employees to succeed.
anything Trump does is evil, especially if it means firing overpaid bureaucrats who don't do their fucking jobs.

you know who else fired people, don'tcha? that's right, hitler.
Well let's just make sure common sense is being used. Firing one guy because some written admonition from 10 years ago is just as stupid as when we would QMP people because they had a GOMAR 7 years ago lol.

I will say that with 377k employees, 500 odd firings shouldn't be raising eyebrows however....
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344,500 people to go.
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Viktorthepirate wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Image
WaPo's not happy,
The agency that has been the main target of efforts to fire feds faster dismissed more than 500 employees this year — even before a new accountability law took effect.

Since the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) shamed itself in 2014 with a scandal over the coverup of long patient wait times, Capitol Hill politicians have demanded that the agency accelerate sacking — as if that were the main measure of good personnel administration. Department leaders joined the call and perpetuated the impression that life would be better if only more derelicts could be dumped.

Now we know that VA has dumped plenty.

Its first public posting, released Friday, of adverse actions against employees, terminations, suspensions and demotions, showed that the department fired 525 staffers from Jan. 20, when President Trump took office, through July 3.

The number of staffers dismissed should not be confused with effective human resource management. A certain percentage of terminations is inevitable in any organization, particularly during probationary periods. Yet, an excessive and perverse focus on firing makes that a valued metric, instead of more attention on measures encouraging the agency, its managers and its employees to succeed.
anything Trump does is evil, especially if it means firing overpaid bureaucrats who don't do their fucking jobs.

you know who else fired people, don'tcha? that's right, hitler.
Well let's just make sure common sense is being used. Firing one guy because some written admonition from 10 years ago is just as stupid as when we would QMP people because they had a GOMAR 7 years ago lol.

I will say that with 377k employees, 500 odd firings shouldn't be raising eyebrows however....
We already know that tons of people were in on it. We know those people knew what they were involved in, because the issue they were covering up had been all over the news. We know they were intentionally dressing up the numbers to hide what they were hiding, and we know it wasn't just a small number of people at the top doing it. It was happening just one or two levels above those who were directly providing care, and it was happening across the entire VA, not just in one or two regions, or on one or two bases.

There's no reason to doubt that the list of people knowingly involved in this scandal was large.
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Viktorthepirate wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Image
WaPo's not happy,
The agency that has been the main target of efforts to fire feds faster dismissed more than 500 employees this year — even before a new accountability law took effect.

Since the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) shamed itself in 2014 with a scandal over the coverup of long patient wait times, Capitol Hill politicians have demanded that the agency accelerate sacking — as if that were the main measure of good personnel administration. Department leaders joined the call and perpetuated the impression that life would be better if only more derelicts could be dumped.

Now we know that VA has dumped plenty.

Its first public posting, released Friday, of adverse actions against employees, terminations, suspensions and demotions, showed that the department fired 525 staffers from Jan. 20, when President Trump took office, through July 3.

The number of staffers dismissed should not be confused with effective human resource management. A certain percentage of terminations is inevitable in any organization, particularly during probationary periods. Yet, an excessive and perverse focus on firing makes that a valued metric, instead of more attention on measures encouraging the agency, its managers and its employees to succeed.
anything Trump does is evil, especially if it means firing overpaid bureaucrats who don't do their fucking jobs.

you know who else fired people, don'tcha? that's right, hitler.
Well let's just make sure common sense is being used. Firing one guy because some written admonition from 10 years ago is just as stupid as when we would QMP people because they had a GOMAR 7 years ago lol.

I will say that with 377k employees, 500 odd firings shouldn't be raising eyebrows however....
Yeah don't be dense. Someone finally got the go ahead to fire the inept niggers manning the VA desks... you know, one of Trump's promises.
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Okeefenokee wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:In all fairness to the Frankfurt School, the were working at a time when being disillusioned with their particular deathscape might have been appropriate, and maybe even a teeny bit prescient.
lol, no.
Many of these theorists believed that traditional theory could not adequately explain the turbulent and unexpected development of capitalist societies in the twentieth century. Critical of both capitalism and Soviet socialism, their writings pointed to the possibility of an alternative path to social development.
Translation,

Marx told them capitalism would collapse, but it didn't. Meanwhile, marxism's kill count was at around a hundred million, and getting pretty untenable.
Do you people really not understand why people in the interwar period might be justifiably disillusioned with the economic/state models on offer? Soviet socialism included?
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:In all fairness to the Frankfurt School, the were working at a time when being disillusioned with their particular deathscape might have been appropriate, and maybe even a teeny bit prescient.
lol, no.
Many of these theorists believed that traditional theory could not adequately explain the turbulent and unexpected development of capitalist societies in the twentieth century. Critical of both capitalism and Soviet socialism, their writings pointed to the possibility of an alternative path to social development.
Translation,

Marx told them capitalism would collapse, but it didn't. Meanwhile, marxism's kill count was at around a hundred million, and getting pretty untenable.
Do you people really not understand why people in the interwar period might be justifiably disillusioned with the economic/state models on offer? Soviet socialism included?
Why yes, resident closet commie, I understand entirely why a commie in the interwar period would be disillusioned. You spent your entire life being told that capitalism would crumble, and that glorious communism would rule the world, but then you saw communism fail miserably, being dragged down ever rapidly by the albatross that was your hundred million life death toll, while the economic system that you believed would result in all of its adherents being subjected to serfdom actually produced the greatest increase in wealth, across the board, that the world has ever seen.

Yes. It is entirely understandable that such a world class fucking defeat would cause your side to be disillusioned.

It makes complete sense that people, who would subscribe to an ideology so completely divorced from reality that it took one hundred fucking million dead bodies before you realized it wasn't working, would then decide to double down on their failure, rather look in the fucking mirror and ask yourself what you got wrong.

Yeah, we get it.

Do you?
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