C-Mag wrote:I'm not even a lawyer, but there is no way Comey is credible.
- Comey said he knew he needed to take notes because of the character of the Trump, and he thought he might lie
-- So, he was pre-prejudiced against Trump
- If the first meeting was so bad, and Comey was so uncomfortable, why did he meet with the Trump again
- If it takes him 30 day to figure out he was being pressured, he doesn't have the judgement to be FBI Director
- Why is he taking notes and not reporting this if it was that bad ? He said if he hadn't been fired he would not have resigned.
-- So what were the notes for, to coerce the POTUS later at some convenient date?
- How often has our FBI Director used friends to leak information to the press?
I could go on and on.
Mueller has to go, he has to recuse himself now, if not, be replaced. He took in evidence, then he gave the evidence back to one of the key players in the investigation.
Words from a former FBI agent, even one that has been fired but claims the firings were about Flynn and the Russia investigation,
does tend to hold way more sway with AGs and juries than an old orange businessmen who become president.
PartyOf5 wrote:From what I am reading, both sides are claiming some sort of "ah-ha, told you so" from this. The sides pick out what they want to hear and ignore what they don't. Lots of spin, little analysis or factual accounts.
For me, the biggest story is a then Director of the FBI admitting he leaked information to the media.
Agreed probably. I'm not paying too much attention anymore. Classic Comey.
Fucking want this Russian hacking/collusion meme to die, or rather idc anymore
PartyOf5 wrote:From what I am reading, both sides are claiming some sort of "ah-ha, told you so" from this. The sides pick out what they want to hear and ignore what they don't. Lots of spin, little analysis or factual accounts.
For me, the biggest story is a then Director of the FBI admitting he leaked information to the media.
He gave his private memos to the media as a private citizen. Memos not bound by any sort of privilege, and ostensibly free of classified information.
But you are right, everyone is being pretty selective and making gotchas out molehills.
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HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
I am pretty sure that isn't how executive privilege works, but I guess you get weird defenses when you go with big #5 for your legal defense.
I'm not implying anything about executive privilege. Comey said he leaked the memo in response to a Trump tweet that was posted the day after parts of the memo were reported by the press. That's the lie.
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
But Kasowitz made a significant error in describing the sequence of events prior to the memo’s disclosure. He claims the public record “reveals that The New York Times was quoting from these memos the day before the referenced tweet, which belies Mr. Comey’s excuse for this unauthorized disclosure of privileged information and appears to be entirely retaliatory.” In fact, Trump posted his tweet about “tapes” of their conversations on May 12. The first Times article about the memos wasn’t published until four days later on May 16. While the Times did publish an article on May 11 describing the January 27 dinner in which Trump purportedly asked Comey for his loyalty, the Times cited officials who recalled Comey’s descriptions of the evening to them, not the memos themselves.
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It’s not clear why Kasowitz referred to the memos as “privileged communications.” Because Comey was not Trump’s lawyer, priest, or spouse, his conversations with the president would not be covered by the typical legal privileges. From the available context, it’s possible Kasowitz meant to refer to the memos as falling under executive privilege, which shields some communications between presidents and their subordinates from judicial and legislative scrutiny. But the White House explicitly said Monday it would not invoke that privilege to block any of Comey’s testimony. Even if the memos did fall under its scope—and it’s unclear if they would—his discussion of them on Thursday would therefore not be illicit. Executive privilege does not apply to disclosing documents to the public or the press.
Dand wrote:
I'm not implying anything about executive privilege. Comey said he leaked the memo in response to a Trump tweet that was posted the day after parts of the memo were reported by the press. That's the lie.
PartyOf5 wrote:From what I am reading, both sides are claiming some sort of "ah-ha, told you so" from this. The sides pick out what they want to hear and ignore what they don't. Lots of spin, little analysis or factual accounts.
For me, the biggest story is a then Director of the FBI admitting he leaked information to the media.
He gave his private memos to the media as a private citizen. Memos not bound by any sort of privilege, and ostensibly free of classified information.
But you are right, everyone is being pretty selective and making gotchas out molehills.
As a private citizen? Stop. It was the FBI director detailing a meeting with the POTUS, leaked with the hope of altering an investigation.
C-Mag wrote:I'm not even a lawyer, but there is no way Comey is credible.
- Comey said he knew he needed to take notes because of the character of the Trump, and he thought he might lie
-- So, he was pre-prejudiced against Trump
- If the first meeting was so bad, and Comey was so uncomfortable, why did he meet with the Trump again
- If it takes him 30 day to figure out he was being pressured, he doesn't have the judgement to be FBI Director
- Why is he taking notes and not reporting this if it was that bad ? He said if he hadn't been fired he would not have resigned.
-- So what were the notes for, to coerce the POTUS later at some convenient date?
- How often has our FBI Director used friends to leak information to the press?
I could go on and on.
Mueller has to go, he has to recuse himself now, if not, be replaced. He took in evidence, then he gave the evidence back to one of the key players in the investigation.
Words from a former FBI agent, even one that has been fired but claims the firings were about Flynn and the Russia investigation,
does tend to hold way more sway with AGs and juries than an old orange businessmen who become president.
