The Mess

[Smitty-48]

You cannot wage war on ideas, you overcome them.

You can make war on the people who uphold them, for example, if I make war on the socialist regime in Cuba, the Cubans who are not socialists and do not support the regime must throw down their arms and surrender, then they point out who the regime oppressors are, the apparatchiks and collaborators, then we hang those folks, then the rest of the Cubans are free to go about their business, whoever so joins the war against the socialist regime, is a partisan ally and will be treated accordingly.

[Hwen Hoshino]

You cannot wage war on ideas, you overcome them.

You can make war on the people who uphold them, for example, if I make war on the socialist regime in Cuba, the Cubans who are not socialists and do not support the regime must throw down their arms and surrender, then they point out who the regime oppressors are, the apparatchiks and collaborators, then we hang those folks, them the rest of the Cubans are free to go about their business, whoever so joins the war against the socialist regime, is a partisan ally and will be treated accordingly.

What about the people who believe socialism would be the best system but did not participate in the government that way? Also how do you define collaborators exactly?

[Smitty-48]

What about the people who believe socialism would be the best system but did not participate in the government that way? Also how do you define collaborators exactly?

Collaborator would be non official regime elements, Cubans who were actively attempting to prevent the Cubans who were willing to make war on the socialist regime from doing so. If any socialists are engaged in sedition against the occupying authority, they get hung too. if there are socialists who are keeping their heads down and not actively opposing by political means the occupying authority, they are of no concern.

Only making war on active organized political socialism, what you believe is of no concern, only what you actively try to assert by political means and/or force.

Ain't rocket science, America has waged this war for a hundred years. "Are you now or have you ever been a member of..."

[ssu]

Vietnamese were not cutting conquerors. Why bother?

Yeah, and perhaps the Taliban isn't like the Islamic State and it will be just happy with Afghanistan, nothing more... and has learned not to give refuge to some bin Laden. Who knows... perhaps we see that day too.

Never heard of the Domino Theory? It's quite logical from the situation then. Korea was in my view a decent fight to defend democracy as we can see what North Korea is like even now. In hindsight you can argue a lot of things. Now some did see the situation correctly, but they weren't listened to.

[Montegriffo]

For what? Existing while socialist.

Of course, if it wasn't in direct contravention of my solemn oath to my Commander-in-Chief, I'd have all the socialists hung from the lampposts.

Let us hope you would work on your definition then or a lot of collateral damage might occur.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It's just logic, there is no superior nor inferior, logic proves that Donald Trump couldn't have lost the election, because he won the election, the manifest fact that he won, overturns any inherently unprovable suppositions of "might have".

Post-fact world baby.

Then there is no argument against hanging the socialists from the lampposts.

Or beheading aristocrats.

[Ex-California]

Post-fact world baby.

Then there is no argument against hanging the socialists from the lampposts.

Or beheading aristocrats.

I can't wait until we do that again

[DrYouth]

Uh oh...

Someone squared off against Smitty on Socialism...

That was bound to happen.

Smitty gets kinda "scorched earth" when it comes to Socialism.

How much damage has been done? Do we need a medic?

[Hwen Hoshino]

Vietnamese were not cutting conquerors. Why bother?

Yeah, and perhaps the Taliban isn't like the Islamic State and it will be just happy with Afghanistan, nothing more... and has learned not to give refuge to some bin Laden. Who knows... perhaps we see that day too.

Never heard of the Domino Theory? It's quite logical from the situation then. Korea was in my view a decent fight to defend democracy as we can see what North Korea is like even now. In hindsight you can argue a lot of things. Now some did see the situation correctly, but they weren't listened to.

They were tribally obligated because oif their traditions to give refuge to Bin Laden. There was no reason why he could not had been killed the way he was without invading countries.

Sure it's logical if you have 3 channels and CFR members everywhere. It would not had been logical in a more intellectually quesioning society.

Collaborator would be non official regime elements, Cubans who were actively attempting to prevent the Cubans who were willing to make war on the socialist regime from doing so. If any socialists are engaged in sedition against the occupying authority, they get hung too. if there are socialists who are keeping their heads down and not actively opposing by political means the occupying authority, they are of no concern.

Only making war on active organized political socialism, what you believe is of no concern, only what you actively try to assert by political means and/or force.

Ain't rocket science, America has waged this war for a hundred years. "Are you now or have you ever been a member of..."

There was no war against socialism. There was a war for world domination. I bet your locally recruited ideologically unaware hit squads will kill a ton of innocent people, unpopular non socialist people. Capitalism happens because of greed, you don't need a war for greed, that stuff shows up on its own and erodes socialism.

[DrYouth]

It seems Hwen is uncowed by Sherman's tactics...