What are some of the most important battles for Western Civilization? If not the most important one?
Salamis
Thermopylae
Battle of Tours
Battle of Lepanto
Siege of Vienna
Battle of Vienna
Most Important Battle for Western Civilization?
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I'm not sure you can pick one, each of those battles were necessary in stemming and turning back the tide of Eastern aggressions into Western Lands. Over the course of a thousand years Western Europe defended itself against these aggressions. What we often miss his how many battles the Byzantium Empire fought against the same foe.
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After the Greek ones was Western civ better for the average human?GloryofGreece wrote:What are some of the most important battles for Western Civilization? If not the most important one?
Salamis
Thermopylae
Battle of Tours
Battle of Lepanto
Siege of Vienna
Battle of Vienna
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I don't know. Maybe. I do think Classical Greek culture was something worth saving and flourished afterwards and later obviously influenced Roman civilization/Western thought and so on. My question was what are some important battles FOR Western civilization not whether the West was good for humanity. Thanks for playing though.Hwen Hoshino wrote:After the Greek ones was Western civ better for the average human?GloryofGreece wrote:What are some of the most important battles for Western Civilization? If not the most important one?
Salamis
Thermopylae
Battle of Tours
Battle of Lepanto
Siege of Vienna
Battle of Vienna
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Stalingrad and El Alamein.
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Remind me, which side was the east?Montegriffo wrote:...El Alamein.
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Battle of Plataea
Battle of Adrianople
Battle of Tours
Siege of Jerusalem (1st Crusade)
Battle of the Somme
Normandy landings
Battle of Adrianople
Battle of Tours
Siege of Jerusalem (1st Crusade)
Battle of the Somme
Normandy landings
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The premise was important for Western civilisation, who was on the East is irrelevant.Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Remind me, which side was the east?Montegriffo wrote:...El Alamein.
With a Nazi victory the oil fields of the ME would have been open to them and the war may well have been lost which would be terrible for Western civilisation.
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Montegriffo wrote:The premise was important for Western civilisation, who was on the East is irrelevant.Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Remind me, which side was the east?Montegriffo wrote:...El Alamein.
With a Nazi victory the oil fields of the ME would have been open to them and the war may well have been lost which would be terrible for Western civilisation.

If the Nazis had won at Stalingrad, the oil at Azerbaijan would have been theirs (which was the objective of the Case Blue offensive) and they wouldn't need to go over the Suez, through the Levant and up to Kirkut or down to the Red Sea to get at the ME oilfields before finding a way to somehow transport this oil home--even so, Iraq wasn't exactly cranking out the oil at the time anyway.
If the Nazis lost at Stalingrad but won at El Alamein, they still get no oil, and still have a long way to go before getting any--in any case, Operation Torch would've proceeded with or without a British victory at El Alamein, and the results would've been the same.
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