Smitty-48 wrote:
You invoked "argument", I made the argument, I articulated the proof logically deduced, now it is time for you to concede; "You're right, Smitty, Sanders couldn't have won, because he ran, and he didn't win, I concede"
I can not concede a point I never made.
Are you cranky that I accused you of liking something about Sanders?
Edit: your edit cleared up that question.
I'm not cranky, I'm just trying to get you off Bernie Sanders, because I'm not interested in Bernie Sanders, unless it is to see him shot by a firing squad. I'm not cranky about it, I would have Bernie Sanders shot, in cold blood, I assure you.
I am happy to NEVER mention Sander to you again. In fact, on my honor, this is the last post I will ever make that has a
Smitty-48 wrote: tag that uses the name Sanders.
But I don't think "Donald Trump could have never lost the presidential race because he won the presidential race" is superior logic.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
TheReal_ND wrote:Well that's exactly what it means. Inventing problems to get a certain faction to purity spiral in on itself. Much the same as the Echo Camber threads you would see on the DCF. See, ssu is really good at this. No doubt he should be as a Finn because they are basicaly on the front lines of memetic warfare. If you see something positive that a group of people agree with you can call that arena an echo chamber what not. Get them to start attacking each other over eternal ideals. That's concern trolling. Problem is, so much of it goes on in the media you lose track of where the front line is and where valid criticism comes in to play. That's where you need some IQ points and shiet.
So now I'm a controll troll or what?
I'll give credit when it's due and in place. For you nuke politics seems like an issue of faith, and any critique is an deviation of that faith. Issues of faith you don't question or reason. Elections are one thing, the period after that another. Some of the decisions politicians and their policies can be said to be good, some be bad. It's not in the end and utter disaster (as those against think) or a remarkable triumph (as the supporters think). A Trump administration will be an US administration just like the administrations before them, some differences, but perhaps not so many as people (in favour or against it) think.
Trolls enjoy getting people angry. It's the attitude that a debate is about winning and losing, and humiliating people. For me really, if a debate gives new insights, viewpoints that you didn't think off or simply new information, that's the objective.
And it's not memetic warfare. It's subversion. And I can see the harvest in my own country, it works. When you previously had an Stasi agent as President, you know what subversion can be. Here's a great old interview from a KGB defector on just what that subversion is, the attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, and hierarchy. Now of course Bezmenov is far too alarmist back then, as this interview was done in the 1980's, but it does explain a lot. And we can see that In some things the KGB was indeed successfull. I think that some of you may agree with the guy here about what he is talking about.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
But I don't think "Donald Trump could have never lost the presidential race because he won the presidential race" is superior logic.
It's just logic, there is no superior nor inferior, logic proves that Donald Trump couldn't have lost the election, because he won the election, the manifest fact that he won, overturns any inherently unprovable suppositions of "might have".
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
But I don't think "Donald Trump could have never lost the presidential race because he won the presidential race" is superior logic.
It's just logic, there is no superior nor inferior, logic proves that Donald Trump couldn't have lost the election, because he won the election, the manifest fact that he won, overturns any inherently unprovable suppositions of "might have".
Post-fact world baby.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
Hwen Hoshino wrote:I used be one. Why kill me before i could change my mind?
You think you're not expendable? C'est la guerre.
That approach leads to your own demise. Just ask the people of the French Revolution.
They were socialists, that's why they did it, that's why I would kill them, if it wasn't for British Parliamentary Supremacy having defeated them that is.
