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[katarn]

And neither were hilarious unless you are one sick bastard....

Blame that guy ^^^

And GCF, you haven't contributed anything but snide remarks and stupid insults for months, so you can fuck off too.

You know, dialing all vitriole back might help.

[Speaker to Animals]

And neither were hilarious unless you are one sick bastard....

Blame that guy ^^^

And GCF, you haven't contributed anything but snide remarks and stupid insults for months, so you can fuck off too.

You know, dialing all vitriole back might help.

Dude, I am tired of both of these characters treating me like shit, and when I finally have enough and tell them to go fuck themselves, people like you blame me for it. For fucking once blame the people who are CONSTANTLY insulting people and treating other forum members like shit.

This double standard is fucking infuriating.

Neither of them contribute much, especially not GCF. I ask a simple question and I am compared to a moral monster for thinking slavery is funny, which is insulting as fuck. Fuck them and their fucking pony they rode in on.

[Montegriffo]

I imagine the history of slavery is taught more in US schools than in the UK. The original series came out when I was 11 or 12 and may have been responsible for it being taught more than previously.
There were only 3 TV stations at the time so nearly everyone watched it.
Same with the series Holocaust which was around the same time.
My father and I watched them together but I do remember that some of my school friends parents didn't let them watch as they thought it was not suitable for 11 year olds.

I don't remember much about the topic from school other than being taught about the triangle trade and the civil war. I'm sure it's taught much more in depth now.

Now, I've had a bit of a light-US/and era history due to curriculum differences in states (having moved a lot), but slavery isn't really taught too much by the actual experience. It does feature as an institution in the high school/AP classes, but even those mostly examine its origins/ decline and causes thereof. So basically still the triangle trade. (Assuming 'civil war' means the US Civil War.)

Thanks for getting the thread back on topic.
I guess the reason that here in the UK the history of abolition was the main subject was due to the origins of the movement being in England with Wilberforce and his successful campaign to end the slave trade.
We did study the American civil war in some depth too.
One thing I learnt fairly recently was that the English adopted slavery because they could not compete on a level playing field with the Spanish who used slaves first. Until then the English system of indentured labour was used which was a form of slavery using the desperately poor English labourers who would be owned by the company until they had paid off the cost of transporting them to the colonies. Only when this was not cheap enough to compete with Spanish sugar and other produce did the English start transporting slaves to the West Indies and the Americas.

[Okeefenokee]

putting this on my watch list. I never saw the original.

In semi-related news, the Cosmos remake was fucking awesome, but not as good as the Carl Sagan version.

Oj Simpson, and reading rainbow were in the original.

[MilSpecs]

I don't remember much about the topic from school other than being taught about the triangle trade and the civil war. I'm sure it's taught much more in depth now.

Now, I've had a bit of a light-US/and era history due to curriculum differences in states (having moved a lot), but slavery isn't really taught too much by the actual experience. It does feature as an institution in the high school/AP classes, but even those mostly examine its origins/ decline and causes thereof. So basically still the triangle trade. (Assuming 'civil war' means the US Civil War.)

That makes sense, assuming that sociology isn't covered much before college. I'm glad you brought up the difference in curriculums between states, too. People from other countries may not be aware that all Americans are not necessarily taught the same thing or at the same time.

[Montegriffo]

Yeah I spotted OJ when I was checking the cast lists.
The Wiki page goes into some detail about the differences between the two versions. The 2016 series misses out large parts of the plot from the 1977 production but according to Wiki the 2016 version keeps closer to the book. I might have to read the book for myself now to get the original story.

[Montegriffo]

I don't remember much about the topic from school other than being taught about the triangle trade and the civil war. I'm sure it's taught much more in depth now.

Now, I've had a bit of a light-US/and era history due to curriculum differences in states (having moved a lot), but slavery isn't really taught too much by the actual experience. It does feature as an institution in the high school/AP classes, but even those mostly examine its origins/ decline and causes thereof. So basically still the triangle trade. (Assuming 'civil war' means the US Civil War.)

That makes sense, assuming that sociology isn't covered much before college. I'm glad you brought up the difference in curriculums between states, too. People from other countries may not be aware that all Americans are not necessarily taught the same thing or at the same time.

I did wonder about that, I presume it is more of a contentious issue in the Southern States?

[MilSpecs]

I did wonder about that, I presume it is more of a contentious issue in the Southern States?

I don't know how it was taught in the southern states, but in my home state of NY we were taught that the merchants in the northeast had great responsibility for the triangle trade. We weren't taught much about the institution of slavery and nothing about small scale slaveholding, which certainly took place in this region.

[SuburbanFarmer]

putting this on my watch list. I never saw the original.

In semi-related news, the Cosmos remake was fucking awesome, but not as good as the Carl Sagan version.

Oj Simpson, and reading rainbow were in the original.

You're referring, of course, to Geordi?

[Montegriffo]

I just found this article about Wilberforce from the Guardian about a book on his Clapham sect by Steven Tompkins.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug ... iles-claim

Colonial Office papers for Sierra Leone, the free colony established by Wilberforce and his "Clapham Sect" of social reformers as an ideal society where races mixed and slaves were free, reveal that slavery – albeit renamed "apprenticeship" – continued long after the 1807 act abolishing slave trading, with Wilberforce's knowledge.
His condoning of the practice and his collusion in keeping it quiet conspired to ensure that Sierra Leone's capital, Freetown, would be the last place in the British empire where Africans could still be legally bought and sold into forced labour.

As directors of the Sierra Leone Company, Wilberforce and his coterie effectively ran the colony. After the 1807 Slave Trade Act, which abolished the slave trade but not slavery, the Royal Navy started intercepting slaving ships, arresting crews and rescuing slaves.

But, what to do with the rescued slaves? "They could have set them free. But what they did was hand them over to the authorities in Freetown," said Tomkins. Sierra Leone became a crown colony in 1808, but was still managed by Wilberforce and his friends. "So with their knowledge, and their acquiescence, the navy would hand the slaves over. Some the colony kept themselves, others they sold to landowners and they put them to slave labour."

Men and children were "indentured" for $20. Women were given away. They did not call them slaves, they were "apprentices" – not purchased, but "redeemed".

They received no wages, just food. And those that escaped were recaptured, in irons. The only distinction between them as "slaves" and as "apprentices", was that they must be freed after 14 years.