MHF Democrat Primary Poll

[StCapps]

The Dems don't want that Bernie Sanders bullshit, some of them do, but it's not a faction large enough to win without heavy establishment backing on top of it. Biden is not a placeholder, that's wishful thinking by the Biden Haters.

[Speaker to Animals]

If you really want to get an idea of where the country stands, you should study places like Asheville, Austin, etc. Small ultra-liberal towns surrounded by right wing (and largely rural) county.

What I notice is people living in certain areas (and here I am not talking about total jackasses living in foreign nations who have no fucking clue what they are talking about, but actual Americans) whose main grasp of what is going on outside either the red or blue camp has to come from the Internet and media.

If you live in Chicago, even if you consider yourself something like a conservative or whatever, your contact with the what is going on in actual red territory is fairly limited to family and friends who moved to those locations and report back to you. It's just hard to figure out what is happening through somebody else's narrative of what they are seeing.

Likewise, if you live in rural Tennessee, it might be a little difficult to get a grasp on what the American left is actually into. You might read those bogus articles about how AOC is actually unpopular amongst liberals (she's not) and you get incorrect impressions about them.

Step one is fully admitting to yourself and others that the media lies to you all the time. Their job is to lie to you and manipulate you. So whatever information you get from those sources is suspect from the start.

A person who lives in one of these weird areas where you have a small ultra-weird liberal small city surrounded by the most red neck countryside imaginable gets to see shit and interact with people that you do not. Something different happens when these people come into contact and people get a better grasp of what's going down.

There's not so much violence here. At least not yet.

And to people in foreign countries who talk a lot of shit because they think they understand what is going on in America because they watch television: dude, just settle down for fuck sake. You don't know what you are talking about. I wouldn't talk shit about what the average faggot in Canada believes. Think about how stupid you sound right now.

[StCapps]

Once Sanders or Warren drops out, Biden will have all the momentum and will take enough support from the drop out to beat the one who remains. The only way that works, is if one of them drops out before Super Tuesday, if they both hang in past Super Tuesday, Biden wins easily. If one of them gets out before Iowa, they still probably lose, but at least they'll have a better chance.

When Sanders numbers drop, Biden gains, when Biden drops, Sanders gains. You'd be surprised how many Bernie voters jump ship to Biden if he goes down, a lot of Biden second choice voters in the Bernie camp.

Biden is a high floor frontrunner, these kind of candidates usually don't lose primaries, especially in a crowded field where the high floor frontrunner opponents are splitting the vote.

Remember when the media said that once the Anti-Trump vote backs one candidate, he'll lose because low ceiling?
Remember when the media said that once the Anti-Romney vote backs one candidate, he'll lose because low ceiling?
I 'member, you are making the same argument about Biden, and you are as wrong as the media was back then.
Electability matters, and once a high floor frontrunner has momentum, they don't lose, even when the opposition rallies around one candidate.

If Biden doesn't lose both Iowa and New Hampshire, he's going to win, because he's going to win South Carolina if he wins one of the first two states, and that gives him momentum heading into Super Tuesday where the states voting are favorable to Biden success, especially with momentum.

If Biden wins Iowa or New Hampshire, wins South Carolina, and wins Super Tuesday, Biden is the presumptive nominee, and that is the most likely outcome.

[Speaker to Animals]

To really drive the point home, the guy the media was propping up as a "front runner" for months held a rally the same day as Trump, right down the street. He got 30 supporters to show up. 30.

While thousands packed the Southern New Hampshire University Arena to hear President Donald Trump speak, about 30 supporters of Joe Biden gathered at the Portland Pie Co. to talk about the former vice president’s campaign.

Stuffed in a small room with six tables, munching on several types of pizza, campaign members discussed Biden’s qualities with interested voters.

“We are here because we are standing up to hate just down the road,” announced Biden’s New Hampshire Organizing Director Peter Dougherty, 28, of Manchester. “This is our moment, our chance. We need to talk to people now about what (Joe Biden) can do.”

https://www.eagletribune.com/election/n ... 6d87c.html

If you think you will find anybody but a few right wing blogs discussing this fact, think again. Imagine if Bernie drew only 30 supporters to a rally. The media would light him up and declare him done, and demand he get out of Warren's way.

It's just a fucking sham. You cannot make any judgments about reality based on what you see on the television. Just turn it the fuck off for a while until you fully grasp this point. Then only use it to figure out how how it might affect the normies still influenced by this propaganda (i.e. capps).

This is a Bernie Sanders rally in 2019:



Elizabeth Warren:



I'd show you a photo of Biden's 30-strong rally, but nobody was there to snap a photo. LOL

[StCapps]

You'll see dude. Sanders and Warren splitting the vote makes Biden the winner. Electability matters, firing up far-left fringe minorities matters a lot less. If Biden was a mere placeholder, he would have fallen off already, yet you still cling to that theory.

[Speaker to Animals]

Again, you say polls matter, but even there you are getting crushed.

http://orlando-politics.com/wp-content/ ... 019-v2.pdf

Bernie is crushing the poll numbers in New Hampshire.

We waste our time seriously discussing Biden. It was fun. Really. That guy is hilarious. But let's get real now.

The actual primary is a contest at this point between Bernie and Warren.


The media is going to push this Warren thing hard, but I think to no avail. I think the democratic electorate is going to cast for Bernie for the most part. Not even a close outcome. Maybe I am wrong about which one wins, but I am not wrong about it not being Biden. LOL

[StCapps]

Again, you say polls matter, but even there you are getting crushed.

http://orlando-politics.com/wp-content/ ... 019-v2.pdf

Bernie is crushing the poll numbers in New Hampshire.

We waste our time seriously discussing Biden. It was fun. Really. That guy is hilarious. But let's get real now.

The actual primary is a contest at this point between Bernie and Warren.

Bernie is up in one poll in New Hampshire. All other polls show Biden crushing it, he's up big in Iowa, he's up big in South Carolina, he's up big in the national. You are cherry picking, and doing a terrible job of it. The polls do not show Biden getting crushed, not even remotely close to accurate, the fact that you can only point to one outlier in one of Bernie's best states, proves you're a dolt.

[Speaker to Animals]

30 people showed up. Polls are tanking for him. Capps is bullish on Biden. LMFAO

[StCapps]

30 people showed up. Polls are tanking for him. Capps is bullish on Biden. LMFAO

His polls are not tanking. You have one poll where he is not winning in NH, that is not tanking. His polls numbers at this point show nothing but high floor frontrunner, pretending otherwise is asinine, and just goes to show how willfully you deny reality to claim Biden is losing. You are reaching so much and jumping the gun, hoping Biden loses so you can claim you were right all along, that you claim the polling is looking bad for him when the exact opposite is true.

[Speaker to Animals]

Dude, he's tanking! He's losing to Bernie in New Hampshire by 6 points and falling, and he's losing overall to Warren at the national level.


You are so delusional, man. You have no idea what is going on here, and even your MSM sources are changing up on you.