Montegriffo wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:37 am
Why should you worry that your leader is inept, insecure, incompetent and in charge if a chaotic, divided and dysfunctional Whitehouse?
No reason, everything is fine...
Have you considered your government is actually inept, insecure, and dysfunctional? Have they not done enough to interfere with American democracy by pushing fake intelligence, propaganda, and election interference? Have they done enough undermining the will of the British electorate by scuttling Brexit every way imaginable? We are talking about a government that turned a blind eye for DECADES while Muslims raped white girls in every major city of the realm and now they arrest Englishmen who criticize the very immigration policy that led to this. But Trump is inept and he is the real problem. Sure.
It occurs to me that the thieves are often the first to accuse innocent people of the theft.
Montegriffo wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:37 am
Why should you worry that your leader is inept, insecure, incompetent and in charge if a chaotic, divided and dysfunctional Whitehouse?
No reason, everything is fine...
Have you considered your government is actually inept, insecure, and dysfunctional? Have they not done enough to interfere with American democracy by pushing fake intelligence, propaganda, and election interference? Have they done enough undermining the will of the British electorate by scuttling Brexit every way imaginable? We are talking about a government that turned a blind eye for DECADES while Muslims raped white girls in every major city of the realm and now they arrest Englishmen who criticize the very immigration policy that led to this. But Trump is inept and the problem. Sure.
It occurs to me that the thieves are often the first to accuse innocent people of the theft.
Projecting their own faults on their political enemies, SHOCKED I SAY!
Some fantastic whataboutism on show here.
Can't address the issue so deflect and divert.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
OK, the British Ambassador to Washington is a partisan hack.
Sure thing, after all, anyone who criticises the hair god is a partisan hack.
Of course, there's nothing partisan about defending an inept, incompetent and dysfunctional President. No nothing partisan at all about that.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
So, apart from attacking the messenger and engaging in whataboutism no one has anything to say in defence of a leader so bad that even a Conservative appointed diplomat from your number one ally calls him inept, incompetent and dysfunctional.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
Montegriffo wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:34 am
So, apart from attacking the messenger and engaging in whataboutism no one has anything to say in defence of a leader so bad that even a Conservative appointed diplomat from your number one ally calls him inept, incompetent and dysfunctional.
You apparently do not understand what the term "whataboutism" means. It refers to a logical fallacy called tu quoque in which the person engaging in the fallacy attempt to deflect from the thrust of an argument by diverting attention to other issues, especially hypocritical examples people engaging in the very same things whom the person leveling the initial charge defends.
What I told you was that the reason your government is "leaking" this information is because they have actively been trying to influence our democratic process since 2016, and they are gaslighting people as to their own inadequacies that they project onto Trump with their made-up stories.
It's just gaslighting, Monty. The actual inept and insecure government here is your own. Our government is far too good at what they do and far too confident in their ability to get away with murder. Quite the opposite.
C-Mag wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:10 am
Monte
I have no doubt that career establishment diplomats are critical of the Trump administration and see it as dysfunctional. But as an American, why should I care about a Brit diplomats assessment of my government. Kim seems to be lamenting the fact that Trump didn't attack Iran and was never really on board with attacking Iran. It's the only factual part of the above piece, the rest is school girl whispers.
Moreover, where was Kim when Clapper and Brennan were coming to London and getting the Brit governments help in spying on one of our Presidential candidates ? That sounds way more fucking dysfunctional than bombing Iran just cause.
There is a reason Monty is to be ignored. Video of roving flash mobs, "Oh yeah, what about all those white flash mobs? Of which I have never seen nor provided any evidence of existing." Fucking hack.
