Iran doesn't practise and fund the world's most hateful, anti-Western, radical and destructive form of Islam that's ever existed on Earth. Nor is Iran as oppressive as SA. It's oppressive, sure, but not as batshit fucking insane as SA. But absolutely most importantly:
It doesn't friggin export its brand of crazy.
SA's Wahhabianism is the 21st century's version of Global Communism. To support SA is to oppose Western civilization because they're funding thousands of subversive mosques, imams, and literature amongst European and American Muslims, turning them in the most absolute, extreme way possible against democracy and liberty values.
Shia Muslims are best Muslims. The only "threat" they pose, is as a "threat" to SA (and Israeli) geopolitical dominance in the area, which US governments think are in their interests, too. What good has SA and Israel pulled off in the region, at all? What benefit does SA wanting to establish itself and it's doomsday cult version of Islam as the dominant regional hegemon, bring to the US?
Look at how effectively you patched things up with Vietnam. They're the most pro-US country in Asia now. You should do the same with Iran. Flip the board. Make them your friends, make them ditch their Russian buddies which they sometimes don't seem to trust, either anyway. They might even patch things up with Israel, like put pressure on Assad, if you supported them against SA...
What the fuck are you talking about? It doesnt export its brand of crazy? Hezbollah ring a bell? The Quds force? That current regime is not flippible propping it up wont help anybody, it must be undermined and it must be opposed. We will not outbid the Russians. As for SA, the House of Saud is a corrupt crime family with some tribal leanings, if you think getting rid of the House of Saud is going to lead to the death or the stagnation of wahhabism that is some fairy tale shit. They are the best of horrible options. It will be replaced by ISIS or a realignment of Ba'athist.
As for Israel, they dont dislike or support SA any more than Iran. Your antisemitism is false. Make no mistake, US doesn't do a damn thing it doesnt want to do. You and Nuke will have to keep dreaming of another Holocaust that doesn't involve your viking ass getting occupied over a lunch break.
Hezbollah and the Quds force aren't bombing shit, nor converting Muslims in Europe and America, to a crazy radical, intolerant brand of Islam. Lol @ the "anti-Semitism" bit. Totally doesn't make you sound like just another pussy wannabe-victim who hysterically blubbers "RAYCISS!" at the drop of a hat.
Iran doesn't practise and fund the world's most hateful, anti-Western, radical and destructive form of Islam that's ever existed on Earth. Nor is Iran as oppressive as SA. It's oppressive, sure, but not as batshit fucking insane as SA. But absolutely most importantly:
It doesn't friggin export its brand of crazy.
SA's Wahhabianism is the 21st century's version of Global Communism. To support SA is to oppose Western civilization because they're funding thousands of subversive mosques, imams, and literature amongst European and American Muslims, turning them in the most absolute, extreme way possible against democracy and liberty values.
Shia Muslims are best Muslims. The only "threat" they pose, is as a "threat" to SA (and Israeli) geopolitical dominance in the area, which US governments think are in their interests, too. What good has SA and Israel pulled off in the region, at all? What benefit does SA wanting to establish itself and it's doomsday cult version of Islam as the dominant regional hegemon, bring to the US?
Look at how effectively you patched things up with Vietnam. They're the most pro-US country in Asia now. You should do the same with Iran. Flip the board. Make them your friends, make them ditch their Russian buddies which they sometimes don't seem to trust, either anyway. They might even patch things up with Israel, like put pressure on Assad, if you supported them against SA...
What the fuck are you talking about? It doesnt export its brand of crazy? Hezbollah ring a bell? The Quds force? That current regime is not flippible propping it up wont help anybody, it must be undermined and it must be opposed. We will not outbid the Russians. As for SA, the House of Saud is a corrupt crime family with some tribal leanings, if you think getting rid of the House of Saud is going to lead to the death or the stagnation of wahhabism that is some fairy tale shit. They are the best of horrible options. It will be replaced by ISIS or a realignment of Ba'athist.
As for Israel, they dont dislike or support SA any more than Iran. Your antisemitism is false. Make no mistake, US doesn't do a damn thing it doesnt want to do. You and Nuke will have to keep dreaming of another Holocaust that doesn't involve your viking ass getting occupied over a lunch break.
Hezbollah and the Quds force aren't bombing shit, nor converting Muslims in Europe and America, to a crazy radical, intolerant brand of Islam. Lol @ the "anti-Semitism" bit. Totally doesn't make you sound like just another pussy wannabe-victim who hysterically blubbers "RAYCISS!" at the drop of a hat.
They are bombing plenty. In Lebanon, Syria, in Iraq for a brief period. Iran is a basket case economically that is the only reason it doesnt do more, it should be kept that way. The same people that dont want us to increase oil production domestically, thier solution is simply change terrorism vendors. Hard pass. As for your Holocaust denial, noted.
Since when is a former POTUS using his free speech rights treasonous? Because you disagree with what he's saying and he disagrees with Trump? That's not how it works, speech you disagree with, that also disagrees with Trump, is not treason.
C-Mag wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:57 pmIt's not a Free Speech issue.
Yes it is. Obama does not have to support Trump's agenda when talking with people in other nations, that's protected free speech, has fuck all to do with treason.
No, it is not. It is illegal to conduct any form of diplomacy or negotiations on behalf of the US government without authorization from the Executive.
Neither would it be "free speech" for me to sell Capp's trailer park out from underneath him.
Fraud is a close description, but when it is done as a shadow government seeking to undermine the elected government of the United States.. borderline treason,if not outright so, and certainly illegal under the Logan Act.
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OK, how.
