Did Political Economy Cause the "Civil" War?

[Speaker to Animals]

In particular, I suspect the Jewish vote is split along religious lines. Jews who abandoned God vote democrat (naturally) and Jews who still try to live up to their covenant and practice their faith tend to vote republican.

Umm, that's not the split. It's mostly between Jews who vote single issue: support for Israel, and those who support Israel but also believe in Tikun Olam, making the world a better place, not just for Jews. Among the many observant Jews I know, very few are Republican. There's also Jews, like in any group, who simply vote for whatever will fatten their wallets without any ideology.

I have a question. How do conservative and orthodox Jews square the modern state of Israel with the actual covenant commanded by God? If I were a Jew, I am not sure I would want anything to do with something that is essentially what all the prophets warned that Jews should never, ever do.

[heydaralon]

In particular, I suspect the Jewish vote is split along religious lines. Jews who abandoned God vote democrat (naturally) and Jews who still try to live up to their covenant and practice their faith tend to vote republican.

Umm, that's not the split. It's mostly between Jews who vote single issue: support for Israel, and those who support Israel but also believe in Tikun Olam, making the world a better place, not just for Jews. Among the many observant Jews I know, very few are Republican. There's also Jews, like in any group, who simply vote for whatever will fatten their wallets without any ideology.

I have a question. How do conservative and orthodox Jews square the modern state of Israel with the actual covenant commanded by God? If I were a Jew, I am not sure I would want anything to do with something that is essentially what all the prophets warned that Jews should never, ever do.

Vote Likud and you will be alright bro.

[heydaralon]

Vote Netanyahu. I know very little about that guy, other than he seems to be a great troll. Idk if he is still running or in office.

[brewster]

I have a question. How do conservative and orthodox Jews square the modern state of Israel with the actual covenant commanded by God? If I were a Jew, I am not sure I would want anything to do with something that is essentially what all the prophets warned that Jews should never, ever do.

Because just like you, they pick and choose which of God's commandments they want to obey and which they want to weasel out of while telling themselves it's God's will.

[Speaker to Animals]

I have a question. How do conservative and orthodox Jews square the modern state of Israel with the actual covenant commanded by God? If I were a Jew, I am not sure I would want anything to do with something that is essentially what all the prophets warned that Jews should never, ever do.

Because just like you, they pick and choose which of God's commandments they want to obey and which they want to weasel out of while telling themselves it's God's will.

I have confession, though.

[heydaralon]

Because just like you, they pick and choose which of God's commandments they want to obey and which they want to weasel out of while telling themselves it's God's will.

Does that explain why you are fine with emptying our treasury supporting foreigners who are usually (almost always without a doubt) rapists but fine with murdering babies of our own citizens using Planned Parenthood? The disconnect between the value of refugee lives over the lives of your own children seems like a sort of hypocrisy to me. Even Ted Bundy never murdered babies. #KermitGosnellBlueWave2020.

You like the governor of Virginia and gave him a pass, especially when he proposed murdering babies that were already born. I'm not judging, just pointing out facts. Another fact is the baby would be outside the womb, when it is left to die or poisoned, which most civilized societies would consider murder. But yeah, some Christians don't spend enough time in the soup kitchen and don't want Stalinism here like you do, so that's also a fault on their part.

[Fife]

federal city FTW

[Fife]

The Abbeville Institute reposted some good Clyde Wilson this morning:

The Real Constitution

The real U.S. Constitution, which was scrapped long ago, does not permit judges to be its final interpreters, executive orders, coercion of the people of a State by the federal government, delegation of control of the currency to a private banking cartel, the subsidy of private corporations, or calling the militia to active service except in case of invasion or rebellion and at the request of the State.

The Constitution should have been reverently buried long ago. Except that its rotting corpse provides lucrative pickings for lawyers and pseudo-respectable cover for power seekers. The central government has no check on its power that is not determined by the politicians in control of its various branches. They seldom check each other but frequently check the people and the States. The 14th Amendment, illegitimately promulgated in the wake of Lincoln’s revolution, has provided power seekers with everything they need to fulfill their limitless ambitions.

The Constitution died when Abraham Lincoln decided to treat the solemn constitutional acts of the people of eleven states as mere “combinations of lawbreakers” to be destroyed by the force at the command of the party in control of the federal executive. One may celebrate or abhor that fact, but fact it is. And Lincoln so acted even though in the election that brought him to power, 60 per cent of the people had voted against “a policy of coercion.”

. . .

Southerners, with their old-fashioned notions of republican virtue and Constitutional limits, were an obstacle to rent-seeking that had to be removed. Karl Marx, many of whose comrades held positions in Lincoln’s party and army, completely agreed with Lincoln. The Southerners, who had played a major role in the founding and progress of the United States, were according to Marx an oppressive and aggressive ruling class of “slave drivers” who must be destroyed because they stood in the way of the “labor of the emigrant,” i.e., the European national socialist who was to profit from the paradise created by American pioneers. The slave drivers were engaged in a wicked rebellion against the “one great democratic republic whence the first Declaration of the Rights of Man was issued.” Lincoln, in the Gettysburg Address certified and immortalised Marx’s version of American history. The meaning of the Constitution had now been re-ordered by ideology and cut off from the people.