A perspective on Hitler's motivations

[Lucky1936]

Here's a Jordan Peterson video where he evaluates Hitler's motivations based on the outcomes.

I think Jordan Peterson can reasonably be called an expert in 20th century authoritarian regimes, since he's made a career of studying them from a psychological perspective.

[TheReal_ND]

Oh look, it's another boomer lecturing on the evils of Nazism. This will never be tired and stale.

Honestly, I like Peterson. I just think it's silly that he has to go so far out of his way to disavow Nazis to keep from getting locked up in Canada for hate speech.

[pineapplemike]

[C-Mag]

I enjoy Peterson. I like his Infer the Motivation part. It's what you had to do with Obama. In the end Obama really only cared for expanding sexual hedonism, aiding Shifted and punishing traditional American institutions.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

What motivation do you infer from that, seeing as how we are confident we can pierce the veil of another's mind by looking at the results?

Having a bunch of America hating perverts running around doing as they will is an end state, not a motivation.

[Smitty-48]

Peterson is completely wrong on this, the primary motivation for liquidation during the war was exactly due to the drain on resources, they didn't have enough resources to supervise them as slave labour because those troops were needed at the front, and the Konzentrationslager themselves were a drain on men and material, and more over, the camps were becoming breeding grounds for disease, and that disease was spreading to the staff, and they feared it would spread to the army from there.

Hitler himself did not plan, direct, nor even order the operation, it was all devised at Wansee by Heydrich and Eichmann, Hitler deliberately put himself at arms length from the decision and left it all up to the SS.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Hush you, with your practical, military explanations.

Peterson spends his time drawing parallels between symbolism in different Biblical epochs, so he is qualified to read Hitler's mind.

[Smitty-48]

Hitler was complicated, dismissing him as the living embodiment of pure evil or whatever, is balderdash, that's a comic book, not reality. Arguably, Hitler was not particularly more evil than other imperialist leaders of his era, plenty of such nasty business going around, including by the British, French and Americans, Nazi Germany is of course not the only country to ever engage in a genocidal war, and by that time after all, it has escalated to a total war of anhiliation, which he was losing, sort of drove the Germans to extremes, but their motivation for mass liquidation at that time, was rather utilitarian, they needed to get rid of their prisoners, due to a lack of resources to imprison them, and the threat of pandemic spreading to the army at the front.

It was actually Stalin who manipulated Hitler into fighting the war in the first place, Hitler and Stalin agreed to invade Poland jointly and at the same time, and this way they would both avoid war with Britain and France, but Stalin tricked Hitler, he hung back and waited a week, until the Germans invaded Poland and then Britain and France declared war on Germany, because Stalin wanted to incite this, so that Britain, France and Germany would exhaust themselves fighting each other, at which point, Stalin would invade Western Europe from the East.

Also, the motivation of the British at least, to go to war against Hitler, was not that they found him to be evil, but rather that he had aligned himself with Mussolini. Initially, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were enemies, when Italy invaded Abyssinia, Hitler backed the Ethiopians, but then they buried the hatchet and became allies, at which point, Germany and Italy together became a dire threat to British interests, because that was a threat to Britain in the Mediterranean and North Africa, which was the route to the Suez, India, and the Far East beyond.

The Second World War, initially, was not about fighting evil, it was about defending the British Empire, it only became the crusade against evil, when all that started going very badly for the British, enter Churchill, and a whole lotta propaganda in his wake.

[Speaker to Animals]

Oh look, it's another boomer lecturing on the evils of Nazism. This will never be tired and stale.

Honestly, I like Peterson. I just think it's silly that he has to go so far out of his way to disavow Nazis to keep from getting locked up in Canada for hate speech.

He's setting himself up to take you guys down. He's not your ally and never was. He doesn't distance himself from you for convenience. You are the big threat as far as he is concerned. This beef with Marxism is more like a vehicle to get the profile he needs to take on the alt-right.

[Xenophon]

Oh look, it's another boomer lecturing on the evils of Nazism. This will never be tired and stale.

Honestly, I like Peterson. I just think it's silly that he has to go so far out of his way to disavow Nazis to keep from getting locked up in Canada for hate speech.

He's setting himself up to take you guys down. He's not your ally and never was. He doesn't distance himself from you for convenience. You are the big threat as far as he is concerned. This beef with Marxism is more like a vehicle to get the profile he needs to take on the alt-right.

So he's signaling hard so that he can stay employed. I don't blame him.