THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:19 pm

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And just like your other posts, you completely ignore the point.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:26 pm

So long as it's just a posturing political stunt, the legislators will always take the blame, gridlock really only falls upon the shoulders of the Executive, if it goes on for months and months, at which point the Great Silent Majority will look to change the President, just to get things moving again, but it's not like Democrats have the courage of their convictions to take it there.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:30 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:So long as it's just a posturing political stunt, the legislators will always take the blame, gridlock really only falls upon the shoulders of the Executive, if it goes on for months and months, at which point the Great Silent Majority will look to change the President, just to get things moving again, but it's not like Democrats have the courage of their convictions to take it there.
The legislative branch should be held responsible. The Presidential branch should not.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:35 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:So long as it's just a posturing political stunt, the legislators will always take the blame, gridlock really only falls upon the shoulders of the Executive, if it goes on for months and months, at which point the Great Silent Majority will look to change the President, just to get things moving again, but it's not like Democrats have the courage of their convictions to take it there.
The legislative branch should be held responsible. The Presidential branch should not.
Ultimately, if nothing is working and everything is in the ditch, that falls on the President, because ultimately the President is responsible for making things work, but it really has to go on and on, like Jimmy Carter style, before it reaches the point of the Great Silent Majority throwing their hands in the air.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:36 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Our paychecks stop during a shutdown.
That's why they call it public service. ;) Anyway, looks like you -(didn't know you were still active service, tbh) get back pay, anyway. If so many other Americans can deal with that, so can you, I'm sure.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:40 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:So long as it's just a posturing political stunt, the legislators will always take the blame, gridlock really only falls upon the shoulders of the Executive, if it goes on for months and months, at which point the Great Silent Majority will look to change the President, just to get things moving again, but it's not like Democrats have the courage of their convictions to take it there.
The legislative branch should be held responsible. The Presidential branch should not.
Ultimately, if nothing is working and everything is in the ditch, that falls on the President, because ultimately the President is responsible for making things work, but it really has to go on and on, like Jimmy Carter style, before it reaches the point of the Great Silent Majority throwing their hands in the air.
“The Buck Stops Here” hasn’t been in the presidents motto for ages. I wish it was, but we haven’t had a person in the White House willing to stand by that statement for almost as long as I’ve been alive.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:42 pm

The president has never been held responsible for the antics in the legislative branch.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The president has never been held responsible for the antics in the legislative branch.
The president used to be a seat of where all responsibility of what happened began and ended with him.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by nmoore63 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:07 pm

You can hold the president accountable if he public threatens veto and so the legislative branch is working under a constraint the executive branch has imposed.

That being said, all of this bullshit rule making from the executive branch, such as DACA, does blur the line.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:22 pm

2013 Trump- It's the president's fault that the government shutdown. 2018 Trump- it's not my fault but the Dems:



Lol, of course Trump would never blame himself for something he claims it was the president's fault 5 years ago.
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