THE ERA OF TRUMP

[TheReal_ND]

The party was over twenty years ago. If you would have told Americans in 1964 that in a year the Hart-Cellar act, that they never got to vote on, would make minorities of their great grandchildren do you think they would have gone for it?

Matter of fact I can think of EXACTLY the kind of people that would have gone for it.

Anyway don't prattle on to me about some post-consumerist rationalization I'm not your guy. I would gladly have taken a hit in financial or welfare security for a more homogeneous neighborhood. Anyone would. And a shrinking population would have benefited the workers and not the rich, precisely the opposite of the current paradigm. If anything, you should have been on board, as a leftist, fighting neo-Marxist multicult but for whatever reason you're too busy sucking dick.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Well how bout this? Even if you didn't believe that the Frankfurt school of politics has been subversive of our country and people from the start, what right did they think they had? "We need open borders and unlimited debt growth." Fuck out of here

Right?

Open borders and debt are a consequence, not the goal. Growth is the goal... you know, the thing which allows us to have the shit we like.

It is, potentially, just the inevitable hang over earned at the party, and don't pretend we all didn't enjoy the party, with our pocket super computers, conspicuous lack of famine, et cetera.

The debt is more akin to doing enough heroin to never come down, and never overdose. It's only a matter of time.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

That's neither here nor there.

If you view cultural Marxism as a lethal infection, it is the most here-est and there-est thing there ever was.

I would have to check with Hash, but my knowledge of infectious disease control, gained from having watching the movie Outbreak at least 2 and a half times, and more than one episode of House MD as well, tells me understanding the source of an infection is critical.

I view it as a deliberate attack.

I don't see what difference that makes... but I doubt that is convincing.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The party was over twenty years ago. If you would have told Americans in 1964 that in a year the Hart-Cellar act, that they never got to vote on, would make minorities of their great grandchildren do you think they would have gone for it? .

Well... yes, actually...

At the height of the Civil Rights Movement the restrictive immigration laws were seen as an embarrassment by, among others, President John F. Kennedy, who called the then-quota-system "nearly intolerable".[6] President Lyndon Johnson signed the 1965 act into law at the foot of the Statue of Liberty.

How exactly do you see that Act as making us a minority? Is there a massive wave of Asians and Africans just over the rise?

The Hart–Celler Act of 1965 marked a radical break from the immigration policies of the past. Previous laws restricted immigration from Asia and Africa, and gave preference to northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern Europeans.

[TheReal_ND]

by, among others

I believe you

[Speaker to Animals]

If you view cultural Marxism as a lethal infection, it is the most here-est and there-est thing there ever was.

I would have to check with Hash, but my knowledge of infectious disease control, gained from having watching the movie Outbreak at least 2 and a half times, and more than one episode of House MD as well, tells me understanding the source of an infection is critical.

I view it as a deliberate attack.

I don't see what difference that makes... but I doubt that is convincing.

An infection is just something that happens. It's inherently amoral.

An attack is a deliberate action made by a group of people. It's an immoral act if done without just cause.

Trying to reduce cultural marxism to something that "just happened" is a way to exonerate the people who did this to us, as well as the people who continue to promulgate this evil ideology in our society today.

What you are doing is akin to the old quip, "mistakes were made", in an effort to absolve the guilty of their guilt.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yuri Bezmenov was a KGB officer who defected to the US during the Cold War. His job was ideological subversion, which is a trade term for essentially what we are talking about: injecting cultural marxism into the American culture in order to weaken it for future communist conquest.

The Soviet Union is gone, but the consequences of the attack still linger.

That video is worth listening. He described exactly what is happening to us all the way back in the 1980s.


Look at how he describes people like GCF. What he said was scary. He claims you can't help these people. They are lost.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

The party was over twenty years ago. If you would have told Americans in 1964 that in a year the Hart-Cellar act, that they never got to vote on, would make minorities of their great grandchildren do you think they would have gone for it?

Matter of fact I can think of EXACTLY the kind of people that would have gone for it.

Anyway don't prattle on to me about some post-consumerist rationalization I'm not your guy. I would gladly have taken a hit in financial or welfare security for a more homogeneous neighborhood. Anyone would. And a shrinking population would have benefited the workers and not the rich, precisely the opposite of the current paradigm. If anything, you should have been on board, as a leftist, fighting neo-Marxist multicult but for whatever reason you're too busy sucking dick.

I don't think you are wrong, exactly. Other than the homogeneous neighborhood bit, which... sure, is something you want I guess, I try not to moralize... yes, I agree, but I have it on good authority that you don't get to have unprecedented growth that concerns itself with the needs of workers over capital.

People more clever than I have argued convincingly that those things aren't even really in conflict. The unrepentant commie in me remembers all the tracts I've ever read about contradictions of capital and the end of capitalism that never seems to happen, so I guess we will see.

It is tough to figure out what battles to fight while running a train on a near endless line of dicks...

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I view it as a deliberate attack.

I don't see what difference that makes... but I doubt that is convincing.

An infection is just something that happens. It's inherently amoral.

An attack is a deliberate action made by a group of people. It's an immoral act if done without just cause.

Trying to reduce cultural marxism to something that "just happened" is a way to exonerate the people who did this to us, as well as the people who continue to promulgate this evil ideology in our society today.

What you are doing is akin to the old quip, "mistakes were made", in an effort to absolve the guilty of their guilt.

Abandoning the infection metaphor, we are back to my original statement that no one imagines they are the ones immorally acting without justification. That isn't an absolution, just an observation about people. If you don't think it is instructive to understand why people act in ways you think are totally absurd and immoral, I don't think I can prove you wrong.

[TheReal_ND]

The party was over twenty years ago. If you would have told Americans in 1964 that in a year the Hart-Cellar act, that they never got to vote on, would make minorities of their great grandchildren do you think they would have gone for it?

Matter of fact I can think of EXACTLY the kind of people that would have gone for it.

Anyway don't prattle on to me about some post-consumerist rationalization I'm not your guy. I would gladly have taken a hit in financial or welfare security for a more homogeneous neighborhood. Anyone would. And a shrinking population would have benefited the workers and not the rich, precisely the opposite of the current paradigm. If anything, you should have been on board, as a leftist, fighting neo-Marxist multicult but for whatever reason you're too busy sucking dick.

I don't think you are wrong, exactly. Other than the homogeneous neighborhood bit, which... sure, is something you want I guess, I try not to moralize... yes, I agree, but I have it on good authority that you don't get to have unprecedented growth that concerns itself with the needs of workers over capital.

People more clever than I have argued convincingly that those things aren't even really in conflict. The unrepentant commie in me remembers all the tracts I've ever read about contradictions of capital and the end of capitalism that never seems to happen, so I guess we will see.

It is tough to figure out what battles to fight while running a train on a near endless line of dicks...

Well for one thing, there is less social trust in a non homogeneous town. I mean don't take my word for it go read "Bowling Alone." It negatively impacts nearly every aspect of life. It was written by a lefty professor and he didn't even want to publish his finding. I can see why some people love absolute diversity, but most people either don't know what they are missing or flat out don't.

Once we bowled in leagues, usually after work—but no longer. This seemingly small phenomenon symbolizes a significant social change that Robert Putnam has identified in this brilliant volume, which The Economist hailed as “a prodigious achievement.”

Drawing on vast new data that reveal Americans’ changing behavior, Putnam shows how we have become increasingly disconnected from one another and how social structures—whether they be PTA, church, or political parties—have disintegrated. Until the publication of this groundbreaking work, no one had so deftly diagnosed the harm that these broken bonds have wreaked on our physical and civic health, nor had anyone exalted their fundamental power in creating a society that is happy, healthy, and safe.

Like defining works from the past, such as The Lonely Crowd and The Affluent Society, and like the works of C. Wright Mills and Betty Friedan, Putnam’s Bowling Alone has identified a central crisis at the heart of our society and suggests what we can do.

https://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Co ... 9709194545