Greece vs Rome, with Boris Johnson and Mary Beard

[StCapps]

Looking out for the economy is closer to the truth.

Not at all, if they cared about actually helping the economy instead of just feeling like they are, they wouldn't want to stay in the EU. It's obvious they want to stall until they can stop Brexit altogether, and they will sabotage any Brexit deal in order to try to turn people against Brexit.

We could have left months ago if not for the hard liners rejecting the deal.

The deal was garbage, was deliberate sabotage from the hardline remainers. Nice try.

[Montegriffo]

The queen could just have the ceremonial mace brought back from parliament, and they cannot operate lawfully any more.

What a stinking shit show this parliament is. They keep stopping anything that will bring the Brexit matter to a conclusion and when they have all failed to accomplish anything they are too chicken shit to resign and call for new elections knowing full well that a lot of them will have to leave for good.
These clowns are not representing the people, and they know it. That's why they are cowering in their seats.

The sovereign should step in and put a stop to it. There are no adults in the room. Churchill's grandson - what a crock of crap. Why is that important all of a sudden? A bunch of elitist pricks looking out for the banks in The City most likely. Good riddance.

Looking out for the economy is closer to the truth.

More like an unholy alliance between Marxists and Globalists. After all there is no reason to believe that free trade and capitalism could take care of the needs of the British people. How on earth are you going to take care of yourselves without the help of the 43 000 bureaucrats in Brussels.

How are we going to be as prosperous with barriers put in place between us and our closest trading partners?
How are we going to negotiate better deals without the strength of a huge trading block behind us.

[Montegriffo]

Not at all, if they cared about actually helping the economy instead of just feeling like they are, they wouldn't want to stay in the EU. It's obvious they want to stall until they can stop Brexit altogether, and they will sabotage any Brexit deal in order to try to turn people against Brexit.

We could have left months ago if not for the hard liners rejecting the deal.

The deal was garbage, was deliberate sabotage from the hardline remainers. Nice try.

What was wrong with the deal?
Specifics please not bumper sticker slogans.

[StCapps]

Looking out for the economy is closer to the truth.

More like an unholy alliance between Marxists and Globalists. After all there is no reason to believe that free trade and capitalism could take care of the needs of the British people. How on earth are you going to take care of yourselves without the help of the 43 000 bureaucrats in Brussels.

How are we going to be as prosperous with barriers put in place between us and our closest trading partners?
How are we going to negotiate better deals without the strength of a huge trading block behind us.

The UK doesn't have to put up any barriers between you and your closest trading partners, if your closest trading partners want to put barriers up on you for leaving the EU, that's on them.

You negotiate better trade deals without the huge trading block because you don't need to include all the trading block's bullshit protectionism in your trade deal, which means you get a better deal, instead of being forced to protect special interests not even in the UK.

[Hastur]

More like an unholy alliance between Marxists and Globalists. After all there is no reason to believe that free trade and capitalism could take care of the needs of the British people. How on earth are you going to take care of yourselves without the help of the 43 000 bureaucrats in Brussels.

How are we going to be as prosperous with barriers put in place between us and our closest trading partners?
How are we going to negotiate better deals without the strength of a huge trading block behind us.

The UK doesn't have to put up any barriers between you and your closest trading partners, if your closest trading partners want to put barriers up on you for leaving the EU, that's on them.

You negotiate better trade deals without the huge trading block because you don't need to include all the trading block's bullshit protectionism in your trade deal, which reduce the returns for the UK to protected special interests not even in the UK.

[StCapps]

We could have left months ago if not for the hard liners rejecting the deal.

The deal was garbage, was deliberate sabotage from the hardline remainers. Nice try.

What was wrong with the deal?
Specifics please not bumper sticker slogans.

The deal was the EU gets to punish you with bullshit regulations and tariffs for leaving the EU, while y'all just sit there and take it, to try and force the British into staying. May and the other Remainers deliberately sabotaged the process, to delay Brexit, to increase the chances that Britain changes their mind and decides to stay after all. Once you leave the EU, the EU can't use protectionism to force you to stay, and that negates the short term political benefit of their protectionism, so you'll get a way better deal after you leave.

[Montegriffo]

More like an unholy alliance between Marxists and Globalists. After all there is no reason to believe that free trade and capitalism could take care of the needs of the British people. How on earth are you going to take care of yourselves without the help of the 43 000 bureaucrats in Brussels.

How are we going to be as prosperous with barriers put in place between us and our closest trading partners?
How are we going to negotiate better deals without the strength of a huge trading block behind us.

The UK doesn't have to put up any barriers between you and your closest trading partners, if your closest trading partners want to put barriers up on you for leaving the EU, that's on them.

You negotiate better trade deals without the huge trading block because you don't need to include all the trading block's bullshit protectionism in your trade deal, which means you get a better deal, instead of being forced to protect special interests not even in the UK.

We currently have tariff free
Trade with around half of the countries on the planet. We lose all that overnight with a no deal Brexit.

[StCapps]

How are we going to be as prosperous with barriers put in place between us and our closest trading partners?
How are we going to negotiate better deals without the strength of a huge trading block behind us.

The UK doesn't have to put up any barriers between you and your closest trading partners, if your closest trading partners want to put barriers up on you for leaving the EU, that's on them.

You negotiate better trade deals without the huge trading block because you don't need to include all the trading block's bullshit protectionism in your trade deal, which means you get a better deal, instead of being forced to protect special interests not even in the UK.

We currently have tariff free
Trade with around half of the countries on the planet. We lose all that overnight with a no deal Brexit.

You can make a deal after, and it will be better than the deal May negotiated, by a country mile. If the EU still wants to punish you after that, this is on them, and will hurt them more than it hurts you. You don't need the EU to have tariff free trade with the EU, if the EU want to shoot themselves in the foot by not doing so, to try and deter other nations from leaving by sending a message that they will punish them, that's their problem.

You act like if a no deal Brexit happens, there can be no deal negotiated after the UK leaves, so you have to take the shitty deal instead before you leave while the EU has increased bargaining leverage. That's stupid.

[Montegriffo]

The deal was garbage, was deliberate sabotage from the hardline remainers. Nice try.

What was wrong with the deal?
Specifics please not bumper sticker slogans.

The deal was the EU gets to punish you with bullshit regulations and tariffs for leaving the EU, while y'all just sit there and take it, to try and force the British into staying. May and the other Remainers deliberately sabotaged the process, to delay Brexit, to increase the chances that Britain changes their mind and decides to stay after all. Once you leave the EU, the EU can't use protectionism to force you to stay, and that negates the short term political benefit of their protectionism, so you'll get a way better deal after you leave.

May's deal kept us in the single market with no tariffs.
It was way worse than the deal we currently have but far better than no deal which even the government study showed would be hugely damaging.

[StCapps]

What was wrong with the deal?
Specifics please not bumper sticker slogans.

The deal was the EU gets to punish you with bullshit regulations and tariffs for leaving the EU, while y'all just sit there and take it, to try and force the British into staying. May and the other Remainers deliberately sabotaged the process, to delay Brexit, to increase the chances that Britain changes their mind and decides to stay after all. Once you leave the EU, the EU can't use protectionism to force you to stay, and that negates the short term political benefit of their protectionism, so you'll get a way better deal after you leave.

May's deal kept us in the single market with no tariffs.
It was way worse than the deal we currently have but far better than no deal which even the government study showed would be hugely damaging.

The EU is strong arming you with protectionist bullshit to deter others from leaving the EU, with various bullshit regulations designed to shelter their entrenched interests. May completely caved.

You can lie all you want, shining shit and calling it gold, but that doesn't change reality.