Just because the Germans eventually surpassed the Arabs doesn't mean that the Arabs didn't do anything of value. Get real, the Germans stole tons of good ideas from the Arabs and not just ideas that used to be Western in origin.Speaker to Animals wrote:Compare the Arab and Turkish people to the Germanic people. Both groups were barbarians around the same period. Both captured significant chunks of the western world. But German peoples from Germany to France and England ended up becoming civilized. They invented modern science. They eventually cured diseases and put human beings on the Moon.
The Arabs and Turks.. lulz.
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There is the western world, and then there is China/Japan/Korea.
That's it. Without us, the rest of the world would experience a massive famine and diminish back to pre-industrial standards of living within a few generations.
That's a hard truth to accept, but that's how it is for the time being. They can eventually evolve whatever adaptations are necessary to create advanced civilizations too, but I don't think that will happen with us fucking with them all the time. In a way, I think our altruism is their worst enemy.
That's it. Without us, the rest of the world would experience a massive famine and diminish back to pre-industrial standards of living within a few generations.
That's a hard truth to accept, but that's how it is for the time being. They can eventually evolve whatever adaptations are necessary to create advanced civilizations too, but I don't think that will happen with us fucking with them all the time. In a way, I think our altruism is their worst enemy.
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StCapps wrote:Just because the Germans eventually surpassed the Arabs doesn't mean that the Arabs didn't do anything of value. Get real, the Germans stole tons of good ideas from the Arabs and not just ideas that used to be Western in origin.Speaker to Animals wrote:Compare the Arab and Turkish people to the Germanic people. Both groups were barbarians around the same period. Both captured significant chunks of the western world. But German peoples from Germany to France and England ended up becoming civilized. They invented modern science. They eventually cured diseases and put human beings on the Moon.
The Arabs and Turks.. lulz.
The Arabs didn't contribute anything of value aside from their numbering system, which was coincidence, it's not like they understood its value until they learned algebra from the Greek peoples they enslaved in Anatolia and Syria.
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It was more than just the numerals. If you will even write off some the Arabs biggest contributions to modern society as mere coincidence and won't even give them credit for that stuff, then you simply are unwilling to view this topic in an objective manner. You are like Chekov, but to you it's the West who invented everything, not the Russians.Speaker to Animals wrote:The Arabs didn't contribute anything of value aside from their numbering system, which was coincidence, it's not like they understood its value until they learned algebra from the Greek peoples they enslaved in Anatolia and Syria.
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And if you really want to know how I feel..
I think the nature of a society and its beliefs have genetic consequences that come into play in only a handful of generations. That's how the Germanic peoples of Northern Europe broke out of the Malthusian trap in the high middle ages. That's why the Chinese bureaucracy, which greatly favored rote memory and intellect for advancement, resulted in the highest average IQ on the planet.
Ever wonder why white people have this double-edged sword that is our hyper-altruism? Christianity might have some effect over many generations. There was a selection criteria related to religious marriageability that came into play for many generations leading up to what we have become.
What effects do you think over a thousand years of an evil death cult might have on a group of people like the Arabs? Maybe that explains rape gangs and ISIS? Something to ponder..
I think the nature of a society and its beliefs have genetic consequences that come into play in only a handful of generations. That's how the Germanic peoples of Northern Europe broke out of the Malthusian trap in the high middle ages. That's why the Chinese bureaucracy, which greatly favored rote memory and intellect for advancement, resulted in the highest average IQ on the planet.
Ever wonder why white people have this double-edged sword that is our hyper-altruism? Christianity might have some effect over many generations. There was a selection criteria related to religious marriageability that came into play for many generations leading up to what we have become.
What effects do you think over a thousand years of an evil death cult might have on a group of people like the Arabs? Maybe that explains rape gangs and ISIS? Something to ponder..
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StCapps wrote:It was more than just the numerals. If you will even write off some the Arabs biggest contributions to modern society as mere coincidence, than you simply are unwilling to view this topic in an objective manner. You are like Chekov, but to you it's the West who invented everything, not the Russians. Islam owes everything to the West, fucking clown college.Speaker to Animals wrote:The Arabs didn't contribute anything of value aside from their numbering system, which was coincidence, it's not like they understood its value until they learned algebra from the Greek peoples they enslaved in Anatolia and Syria.
You just wave your hands like we should all just "know" the many advancements of the Arabs. There were precious few, Capps. They are only remarkable insomuch as they were contributed by the Arabs and not by Europeans or Asians.
You can't even name them. You probably are desperately searching the internet right now for examples.

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Your anti-Islam bias has even effected your interpretation of history. Sad. Just because they weren't the most inventive society in history doesn't mean they contributed nothing or very little, no matter how much you insist otherwise.Speaker to Animals wrote:You just wave your hands like we should all just "know" the many advancements of the Arabs. There were precious few, Capps. They are only remarkable insomuch as they were contributed by the Arabs and not by Europeans or Asians.
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StCapps wrote:Your anti-Islam bias has even effected your interpretation of history. Sad.Speaker to Animals wrote:You just wave your hands like we should all just "know" the many advancements of the Arabs. There were precious few, Capps. They are only remarkable insomuch as they were contributed by the Arabs and not by Europeans or Asians.




It seems to me that, genetically speaking, the strongest factor perpetuating genetics of Arab men were the propensity to rape. We are talking about a religion that was centered around capturing women and pressing them into rape slavery. That's how their numbers increased so fast. It shouldn't be any wonder that whatever genetic predisposition towards raping women were prevalent in the most rape-obsessed Muslim warlords predominate today.
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Not being as inventive as Western Civilization or Chinese Civilization isn't some big diss the way you seem to think it is. Islamic civilization has been around for a much shorter period of time than either of those two hyper-inventive and long lived civilizations, obviously the Chinese and the West should have far more numerous accomplishments, derp. That doesn't mean the Islam has given modern society little to nothing.
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StCapps wrote:Not being as inventive as Western Civilization or Chinese Civilization isn't some big diss the way you seem to think it is, especially for a civilization that has been around for a much shorter period of time than either of those two hyper-inventive civs.
It's not just their lack of intellect, innovation, or even civility, but all the other stuff.. you know.. the mass rapes, the enslavement of women, the constant violence against ALL their fucking neighbors no matter where they live on the planet Earth.. that type of shit.
They have labored under twelve centuries of that fucked up religion selecting the very worst in their men for genetic prosperity. How the fuck do you think that plays out in the character of the Arab race?