Britain’s Conservatives Took a Beating.

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Montegriffo wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:56 pm
Montegriffo wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:51 pm

It's not the act that's made up, it's the emergency.
Of course it is. Everything has been an ‘emergency’ since 1971. We’ve been debasing money like maniacs ever since, to maintain the empire that keeps Europe viable. Now we’re running out of IOUs and we’re the bad guys.
Honest question, do you really think Trump's tariffs are a good idea?
Every time he threatens another tariff the markets fall and he has to backpedal like Lance Armstrong on drugs.
Also, do you think they are anything other than a tax on American consumers?
I know you are too smart to think they are paid by the countries exporting to the US, like Trump does.
Results-based: it seems to be working fine.

Philosophically: I’m neutral on it. I don’t want cheap plastic crap from China, I want better quality.

Strategically: we can’t get anything done in Congress, so if this is the only way to keep propping the paper dollar, and reviving our industrial base, let’s do it.

So…. Yes.
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If they are working fine why does Trump keep backpedalling?
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Montegriffo wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:08 pm If they are working fine why does Trump keep backpedalling?
He hasn’t backpedaled once. He’s just holding tariffs over each country’s head until they negotiate a trade deal.

It’s not hard to find this stuff, unless you’re only getting info from the tv.
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SuburbanFarmer wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:08 pm If they are working fine why does Trump keep backpedalling?
He hasn’t backpedaled once. He’s just holding tariffs over each country’s head until they negotiate a trade deal.

It’s not hard to find this stuff, unless you’re only getting info from the tv.
Yes, he has, he's put the dates tariffs will be imposed back several times.
It was supposed to be 25% on everyone back in April. The stock market crashed so he put it back and then reduced it to 10% when US bonds started to crash too.
As for trade deals, what happened to them? It was supposed to be 90 deals in 90 days.
He had to change from trade deals to I'm going to send them letters when he only made 4 deals.

BTW, it's getting really tedious having you accuse me of not getting my info from valid sources. It's obfuscation for when I point something out that you don't like.
Basically, you are using Trump's ''Fake news'' tactic. He's now calling the Epstein files fake news because he doesn't want them released.
It's especially galling when you get most of yours from Zerohedge.
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Montegriffo wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:27 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:08 pm If they are working fine why does Trump keep backpedalling?
He hasn’t backpedaled once. He’s just holding tariffs over each country’s head until they negotiate a trade deal.

It’s not hard to find this stuff, unless you’re only getting info from the tv.
Yes, he has, he's put the dates tariffs will be imposed back several times.
It was supposed to be 25% on everyone back in April. The stock market crashed so he put it back and then reduced it to 10% when US bonds started to crash too.
As for trade deals, what happened to them? It was supposed to be 90 deals in 90 days.
He had to change from trade deals to I'm going to send them letters when he only made 4 deals.

BTW, it's getting really tedious having you accuse me of not getting my info from valid sources. It's obfuscation for when I point something out that you don't like.
Basically, you are using Trump's ''Fake news'' tactic. He's now calling the Epstein files fake news because he doesn't want them released.
It's especially galling when you get most of yours from Zerohedge.
Re: Tariffs, you’re applying causation differently than I am.

Much more importantly, I hope it’s beginning to dawn on you how important it is to break out of the MSM/shitlib bubble. Every single item of news is slanted one way on tv and most ‘news’ papers. All of those sources are merely repeating what the AP says. They do not ask questions about anything.

And things look very different when you listen to more informed people that show their sources/research and don’t speak to you like an absolute drooling idiot. It doesn’t feel as ‘safe’, and you run the risk of black-pilling. You have to keep a strong filter and verify whatever you feel strongly about. But it’s the only way to be informed now.

For me, the main way to do this is through podcasts. Daily/weekly news and insights. I get the quick hits from zerohedge, then much deeper info from people that are interested in doing the work, when they happen to dig into something I care about.

I call you out when you simply regurgitate the BBC/Shitlib/AP nonsense that’s been disproved long ago by better sources. It’s incredibly irritating to battle the same hyper-emotional drivel I can get on The View any day of the week.

That said, if you stick around long enough, I’m confident that you’ll eventually see the bars around you.
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Dude, do you think I don't have access to the internet?
I'm not answering your posts using telepathy.
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Montegriffo wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:55 am Dude, do you think I don't have access to the internet?
I'm not answering your posts using telepathy.
I don’t think you understand how to use it properly, and I’m trying to help because you used to be a funny guy.
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