THE ERA OF TRUMP

[StCapps]

Indeed, that is annoying, but, there's no way to gain satisfaction. What is so satisfying about Trump's victory, whether I agree with him on everything or not, is that he is not trying to be all things to all people, he has his view of things, and it's not up for debate anymore, because he simply sought all that matters, which is power, and now he is going to exercise that power, whether his opponents like it or not; that's the way it's done, that's how I would do it too. Fuck consensus.

Consensus is overrated. It can be a nice cherry on top, at times, but it is not required for good governance certainly, and can be a hindrance to it in fact. Trump realizes this and it's definitely one of his charms, feature not a bug.

[Martin Hash]

Obama operated without consensus, nobody said anything.

[StCapps]

Obama operated without consensus, nobody said anything.

Indeed the media applauded it, but the second a Republican turns around and does the same thing, he's clearly a dictator.

"The hypocrisy of these clowns knows no bounds." - me

[Smitty-48]

The liberals have brought down upon themselves, a political war of total anihilation, their version of "consensus" is that you must submit to their view of things, if you don't, you are a "bigot", but I for one, simply wear that barb as a badge of honour, and in this paradigm; let the slaughtering of their sacred cows commence I say, they would show no mercy for yours, thus; no quarter asked, none given, it shall be.

[StCapps]

The liberals have brought down upon themselves, a political war of total anihilation, their version of "consensus" is that you must submit to their view of things, if you don't, you are a "bigot", but I for one, simply wear that barb as a badge of honour, and in this paradigm; let the slaughtering of their sacred cows commence I say, they would show no mercy for yours, thus; no quarter asked, none given, it shall be.

We didn't start it, but we will finish it. They'll regret picking their battles so poorly.

[jbird4049]

He said he would do it. I don't get the reaction. He said he was going to do it.

Guess they thought he would be like Obama and not do anything he said he would do in eight years.

Yes, but I've heard he is also blocking the Iraqi interpreters, and their families, when not only worked for us, but already have completed, or nearly so, the two year long approval process to come over.

Restated, thanks for risking your life for us, but die because politics.

Being the only one of us two who have ever met one, and talked with them at length, I'll tell you that this difficulty has existed for more than a decade. But go ahead thinking this is something that just started now, and hasn't been the case throughout the past three presidency's.

Actually since at least Vietnam. What we did to the Hmong was just evil.

[jbird4049]

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/0 ... p-threats/

Officials are looking for money that flows through Sacramento to the federal government that could be used to offset the potential loss of billions of dollars’ worth of federal funds if President Trump makes good on his threat to punish cities and states that don’t cooperate with federal agents’ requests to turn over undocumented immigrants, a senior government source in Sacramento said.

CA is about to be in full rebellion of the feds....

Considering the Blue states already give more in revenue than take from the Federal Government, and the Red states, AKA the moochers, take in more from the national government than they are receive. I can't remember the exact percentage, but Liberal Pinko Commie Evil Meanie California contributed around 10% of the federal income after the Federal largesse. As one of my teachers said, California won't be allowed to leave because the Federal Government cannot afford it too.

The liberals have brought down upon themselves, a political war of total anihilation, their version of "consensus" is that you must submit to their view of things, if you don't, you are a "bigot", but I for one, simply wear that barb as a badge of honour, and in this paradigm; let the slaughtering of their sacred cows commence I say, they would show no mercy for yours, thus; no quarter asked, none given, it shall be.

We didn't start it, but we will finish it. They'll regret picking their battles so poorly.

The liberals have brought down upon themselves, a political war of total anihilation, their version of "consensus" is that you must submit to their view of things, if you don't, you are a "bigot", but I for one, simply wear that barb as a badge of honour, and in this paradigm; let the slaughtering of their sacred cows commence I say, they would show no mercy for yours, thus; no quarter asked, none given, it shall be.

It is really annoying to hear (neo)liberals say that all the "conservatives" which no one can tell what that means except there the people not like them. You know, the Deplorables".

I hear similar BS from those who call themes conservatives talking about "liberals."

Are you manly men listening to yourselves, and do you really think you hold a candle to what my very liberal relatives, you know the ones who fought the Nazis, or were chased around by Hoover's boys, not because they broke any laws. They just went to the wrong (legal) meetings, or lectures.

I have spent my life listening to people reduce my conservative friends, and liberal family, into bizarre caricatures of evuhl.

Fuck it. You want to be foolish, go right ahead.

[jbird4049]

Yeah, we've talked about that too. I hope the President tackles that one too. It doesn't resonate with the working class though. So that may not happen.

A lot of the replaced workers are barely above the working class. Not all the jobs are six figure white collar position. What is some technical support geek in office cave making 40k or 50k a year? Maybe in some rust belt town, or in the South, that might qualify as lower middle class, but anywhere else? Not likely.

You're showing your separation with the working class. 40k a year was wealthy where I came from.

Maybe, there's a reason I mentioned different parts of the States. Where I live it costs $1500 a month for a rundown one bedroom apartment. Two bedrooms start at $2000. If you aren't making 40k you are poor.

There are serious differences in living costs in the United States.

[Smitty-48]

It is really annoying to hear (neo)liberals say that all the "conservatives" which no one can tell what that means except there the people not like them. You know, the Deplorables".

I hear similar BS from those who call themes conservatives talking about "liberals."

Are you manly men listening to yourselves, and do you really think you hold a candle to what my very liberal relatives, you know the ones who fought the Nazis, or were chased around by Hoover's boys, not because they broke any laws. They just went to the wrong (legal) meetings, or lectures.

I have spent my life listening to people reduce my conservative friends, and liberal family, into bizarre caricatures of evuhl.

Fuck it. You want to be foolish, go right ahead. You can join some of my own family.

Your fatuous virtue signalling is annoying, but as an ostensible "socialist", you don't actually rise beyond that threshold, and in effect, have rendered yourself moot, and so, other than your inane purity spiralling interludes of course, are of no real consequence at the end of the day.

Socialist dead enders; "blah-blah-blah". /shrugs

[de officiis]

It begins: http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-ag ... -ban-aclu/

Trump just went Andrew Jackson, and federal law enforcement took his side.

More details would've been helpful...the order didn't block everything, just the part regarding certain people already in the U.S.

Trump certainly has stirred the pot. At least no one will accuse him of not following through on his campaign poromises. Now the time has come to see whether the Republicans in Congress will support him, or retreat under the shitstorm of protests that are coming.