1913: The Last Counter-Revolution?

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Smitty-48 wrote:The bottom line is this, the first two amendments in the constitution are the most important, the Democrats are opposed to both, that, plus the impulse to constantly raise taxes to centralize the money in the hands of the public sector, is enough to warrant chucking them out of the helicopters in of itself.

If you're prepared to do so, I'm quite sure conservatives can come up with a list of Republicans who can go with them, no doubt, Lindsay Graham would be on that list, don't worry.
Where did you come up with the ranking of the bill of rights? Many small government dudes I know are pretty big on the 10th Amendment, do you think its the least important of the 10?
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heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:The bottom line is this, the first two amendments in the constitution are the most important, the Democrats are opposed to both, that, plus the impulse to constantly raise taxes to centralize the money in the hands of the public sector, is enough to warrant chucking them out of the helicopters in of itself.

If you're prepared to do so, I'm quite sure conservatives can come up with a list of Republicans who can go with them, no doubt, Lindsay Graham would be on that list, don't worry.
Where did you come up with the ranking of the bill of rights? Many small government dudes I know are pretty big on the 10th Amendment, do you think its the least important of the 10?
You need free speech first, and the guns to defend it second, since 1776 yo, what the hell kind of American are you?
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That is absurd. Courts and trials, privacy, and the 9th amendment ensuring non-enumerated rights have all contributed more to protect free speech than guns.

The rights in the bill work together. Guns too, but not most importantly, not by a long shot. The obsession with the second is a fetish. More symbolic than anything else.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: The obsession with the second is a fetish. More symbolic than anything else.
Symbolic fetish is what politics is all about, it's not like the left doesn't have their fetishes, when the fuckwit leftists give up their gun control fetish, maybe you can move forward, but until they do, they're gonna be talking to the hand, holding a gun, demanding lower taxes.
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Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: The obsession with the second is a fetish. More symbolic than anything else.
Symbolic fetish is what politics is all about, it's not like the left doesn't have their fetishes, when the fuckwit leftists give up their gun control fetish, maybe you can move forward, but until they do, they're gonna be talking to the hand, holding a gun, demanding lower taxes.
Yeah, because tax law is determined not by the legislative process, but by sovereign citizens clutching their their totems.

The right of the citizens to arm themselves is a powerful, and important symbol to be sure, but the cornerstone of tax law? Nah.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: The obsession with the second is a fetish. More symbolic than anything else.
Symbolic fetish is what politics is all about, it's not like the left doesn't have their fetishes, when the fuckwit leftists give up their gun control fetish, maybe you can move forward, but until they do, they're gonna be talking to the hand, holding a gun, demanding lower taxes.
Yeah, because tax law is determined not by the legislative process, but by sovereign citizens clutching their their totems.

The right of the citizens to arm themselves is a powerful, and important symbol to be sure, but the cornerstone of tax law? Nah.
The conservatives are clearly taking hostages of the leftist sacred cows, so long as the left fucks with the conservative sacred cows, it's tit for tat, and conservatives well know that the leftist sacred cows all depend on tax revenue.

Tax revolts is what America is all about, you don't have to the tell the Hanoverians.
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