A perspective on Hitler's motivations

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Speaker to Animals wrote:"undeclared illegal war" :violin:
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When Hitler does it; "Pure Evil!", when America does it; "Gibs, Dindu Nuffin".

Whether it was enslaving Africans, or ethnically cleansing the West, or keeping Indochina under the colonial jackboot, all Hitler said was "hey, Germany, we can do that too", problem was, he did it to white people; big no-no.
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Poor Hitler dindu nuffin.
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All he did was what every other colonial empire did, he simply did it in Europe instead of overseas, which again, big no-no.
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If you declare war on America, chances are we will bury you. We don't fuck around.
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Well, it was rather the Soviets who buried him, America's role in Europe was rather peripheral, and in fact comparitively gloves on, America's gloves off genocidal war, was against the Japanese.

Unlike Hitler, America did not turn on the White Race, the White Race got the Norden Bombsight and "hande hoch", but for those dirty Japs, it was anything goes.
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Then why are you mad at us about poor little Adolf?

I think he was an asshole that tried to murder his own people by Soviet army because he was too prideful to surrender to the Allies.
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Whose mad'acthas? I ain't mad'atchas, we Britons were gloves off with the Germans, because again, British is a place not a race, we don't give a shit if you're white, Land of Hope and Glory FTW, at any cost.

I mean, we're the Germans, the World Wars in Europe, was a German civil war, Hanover & Co v. Hohenzollern & Co, but that didn't stop us from taking the gloves off, twice; we gassed them, we starved them, we firebombed them, we put them in concentration camps, whatevs, c'est le guerre.

What really separates Winston Churchill defending his empire in India and Adolf Hitler trying to make his empire in Russia?

Churchill was on our side, Hitler wasn't, simple as that.
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Smitty-48 wrote:Whose mad'acthas? I ain't mad'atchas, we Britons were gloves off with the Germans, because again, British is a place not a race, we don't give a shit if you're white, Land of Hope and Glory FTW, at any cost.

I mean, we're the Germans, the World Wars in Europe, was a German civil war, Hanover & Co v. Hohenzollern & Co, but that didn't stop us from taking the gloves off, twice; we gassed them, we starved them, we firebombed them, we put them in concentration camps, whatevs, c'est le guerre.

What really separates Winston Churchill defending his empire in India and Adolf Hitler trying to make his empire in Russia?

Churchill was on our side, Hitler wasn't, simple as that.
Maybe the specific ethnic groups that were targeted idk...
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GloryofGreece wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Whose mad'acthas? I ain't mad'atchas, we Britons were gloves off with the Germans, because again, British is a place not a race, we don't give a shit if you're white, Land of Hope and Glory FTW, at any cost.

I mean, we're the Germans, the World Wars in Europe, was a German civil war, Hanover & Co v. Hohenzollern & Co, but that didn't stop us from taking the gloves off, twice; we gassed them, we starved them, we firebombed them, we put them in concentration camps, whatevs, c'est le guerre.

What really separates Winston Churchill defending his empire in India and Adolf Hitler trying to make his empire in Russia?

Churchill was on our side, Hitler wasn't, simple as that.
Maybe the specific ethnic groups that were targeted idk...
As I said, Hitler's great crime; he did it in Europe, to Whitey, if Hitler had done it to non whites in an overseas colony, he'd still be an enemy of the Crown, but I doubt any would be asserting him to be the living emodiment of pure evil therein, as it's not like the Crown is hands clean that way, and neither in fact are France nor America, America being the other country which had executed this sort of war on its own territory, which is why Hitler used America as the model for it.

Unfortunately for the Germans, the overseas colonies options were pretty much taken, the Great War to gain a Place in the Sun for Hohenzollern, proved to them in defeat that there was no Place in the Sun, unless they were willing to take it by overwhelming force. To avoid another war with Britain, France and America, the only viable option was to the East. But then Britain, France and America wouldn't allow that neither, which is in the end, the Second World War in a nutshell.

As if Britain, France and America had ever had any sort of prohibition against ethnic cleansing and genocidal war, such an assertion would be absurd, it wasn't evil until it was, and it wasn't evil, until the Germans tried to effect it in Europe against Europeans, again, if they had done it in Africa nobody would have even blinked at it.

Now, you could assert "industrial scale", but that's not actually a moral position, that's merely a question of degree, and moreover, as I said, it only came to that, when the Germans were backs against the wall facing total annihilation.
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Scale matters. Statistics and Stalin's statement isn't law. The Mongols were more efficient and "industrial" in their killing than any army before and until the 1st World War. Does that make them more evil than other Medieval armies...maybe/maybe not but certainly the scale is significant and its not a good thing. "Quantity has a quality all of its own" and Hitler did his killing in a handful of years. Quite extraordinary indeed.
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