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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:09 am
by The Conservative
Montegriffo wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:31 pm Image
The Dow was at 12,600 back in 2012 today it is over 42K... That's a 107.69% increase...1000 isn't the same as it was back then.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:37 am
by SuburbanFarmer
Haven’t seen any difference yet, other than people with 401ks losing their minds. 5-10% haircut is nothing. This will take months to play out.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:48 am
by Martin Hash
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:37 am Haven’t seen any difference yet, other than people with 401ks losing their minds. 5-10% haircut is nothing. This will take months to play out.
The stock market is my second-most disliked thing about Capitalism, the first being intense wealth concentration.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:20 am
by SuburbanFarmer
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:48 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:37 am Haven’t seen any difference yet, other than people with 401ks losing their minds. 5-10% haircut is nothing. This will take months to play out.
The stock market is my second-most disliked thing about Capitalism, the first being intense wealth concentration.
Wealth concentration is much more extreme under communism.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:30 am
by Martin Hash
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:20 am
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:48 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:37 am Haven’t seen any difference yet, other than people with 401ks losing their minds. 5-10% haircut is nothing. This will take months to play out.
The stock market is my second-most disliked thing about Capitalism, the first being intense wealth concentration.
Wealth concentration is much more extreme under communism.
That’s a false dichotomy. (You know that but said it anyway?)

People actually believe capital gains, which they’ve done nothing productive to earn, just gamble, are more sacrosanct than wages! That’s why I hate the stock market.

People also believe that unproductive people who inherit their money are okay; that all their power & control is deserved. Only billionaires have a say and they often want something to benefit themselves at my expense. That’s why I hate wealth concentration.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:29 pm
by Montegriffo
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:59 am
Montegriffo wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:37 am
LOL, I'm not a Marxist.
I’ve seen you walking and quacking for a decade; don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.
I don't think you know what a Marxist is.

Have I ever called for the means of production to be seized?

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:50 pm
by Martin Hash
Montegriffo wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:29 pm
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:59 am
Montegriffo wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:37 am
LOL, I'm not a Marxist.
I’ve seen you walking and quacking for a decade; don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.
I don't think you know what a Marxist is.

Have I ever called for the means of production to be seized?
Pedantic response. You are a disingenuous debater.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:56 pm
by SuburbanFarmer
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:30 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:20 am
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:48 am

The stock market is my second-most disliked thing about Capitalism, the first being intense wealth concentration.
Wealth concentration is much more extreme under communism.
That’s a false dichotomy. (You know that but said it anyway?)

People actually believe capital gains, which they’ve done nothing productive to earn, just gamble, are more sacrosanct than wages! That’s why I hate the stock market.

People also believe that unproductive people who inherit their money are okay; that all their power & control is deserved. Only billionaires have a say and they often want something to benefit themselves at my expense. That’s why I hate wealth concentration.
Not really…. Under communism, all assets are divided amongst the government officials. That’s 1% owning 100% of everything.

I don’t think anyone actually gives billionaires credit for intelligence at this point.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:58 pm
by SuburbanFarmer
Montegriffo wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:29 pm
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:59 am
Montegriffo wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:37 am
LOL, I'm not a Marxist.
I’ve seen you walking and quacking for a decade; don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.
I don't think you know what a Marxist is.

Have I ever called for the means of production to be seized?
I think it’s more likely that you yourself don’t understand Marxism. The Revolution playbook matches that of the Left perfectly. Undermining institutions, and producing infinite social division, to isolate the individual. It’s all in the book dude.

Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:08 pm
by Martin Hash
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:56 pm
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:30 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:20 am

Wealth concentration is much more extreme under communism.
That’s a false dichotomy. (You know that but said it anyway?)
Not really…. Under communism, all assets are divided amongst the government officials. That’s 1% owning 100% of everything.
It’s not a choice between Capitalism vs Communism. The U.S. had a 90% tax bracket and significant inheritance taxes. Reagan & Clinton reduced the top brackets. Bush Jr. & Obama reduced inheritance taxes. In fact, we were 2 years away from NO inheritance taxes. Fervent Capitalists of the past before those dorks understood the pitfalls.