DBTrek wrote:Perhaps. But our leftists reach for so many cudgels it’s easy to ignore most of them. I mean, when you have no job, no friends, and no skills what you gonna do but invent cudgels to bash everyone else with all day? Our leftists attack everything from white nuclear families to people *without* aspergers (or neurotypicals, as they would sneeringly call them).
That’s why social media and the internet in general is such a blazing dumpster fire of leftist garbage. They have plenty of free time to sit around and test out their new cudgels, cuz it’s not like that have a job to go to or friends to hang out with.
Dr. Zaiss used roberts rules of order and lobotomies to create an ordered society and explain territory demarcation to various humans. He did it quite well I would add.Smitty-48 wrote:Don't know 'bout you, but I personally do not report to "the humans".DBTrek wrote:Can humans be social animals without a society?
Even chimpanzees have borders, and if you cross them, they'll kill you and eat you.
They may not have a formal Treaty of Westphalia, but they get the concept just fine, instinctively.
I would think it's the other way around. We are social animals, and formed societies as a natural result of that. Society as "the pack", or the tribe made abstract. You scale up your sense of duty to your tribe to your city-state, your nation, your country. As we went from hunter gatherers, into city-dwellers with multiple thousand inhabitants, we could no longer recognize everyone and the needs of the community became bigger and more difficult to predict and react to for the average member of the given society. When our sense of loyalty or duty to the tribe gave way to cities, with more people, I think that sense of duty and loyalty became more abstract by neccesity, while at least the feeling (and need?) of belonging to a community stayed.DBTrek wrote:Can humans be social animals without a society?
You never used the word at all, until the international leftists began to take over in the 1970's, again, find me the word "society" anywhere in American lore, prior the coming of the Cultural Marxists.DBTrek wrote:I don’t think we use the word here like you do in collectivist Canada. No one on our national stage is offering to do shit for “society”. They offer stuff to demographics, regions, or tax brackets.
Really? Is George Washington far enough back? I can't believe you've never heard of society being used until recently. Weird, that.Smitty-48 wrote:You never used the word at all, until the international leftists began to take over in the 1970's, again, find me the word "society" anywhere in American lore, prior the coming of the Cultural Marxists.DBTrek wrote:I don’t think we use the word here like you do in collectivist Canada. No one on our national stage is offering to do shit for “society”. They offer stuff to demographics, regions, or tax brackets.
“From George Washington to Lafayette, 15 August 1786,” Founders Online, National Archives Source: The Papers of George Washington, Confederation Series, vol. 4, 2 April 1786 – 31 January 1787, ed. W. W. Abbot. Charlottesville: University Press of Virginia, 1995, pp. 214–216. Page scan at American Memory (Library of Congress)Altho’ I pretend to no peculiar information respecting commercial affairs, nor any foresight into the scenes of futurity; yet as the member of an infant-empire, as a Philanthropist by character, and (if I may be allowed the expression) as a Citizen of the great republic of humanity at large; I cannot help turning my attention sometimes to this subject. I would be understood to mean, I cannot avoid reflecting with pleasure on the probable influence that commerce may here after have on human manners & society in general. On these occasions I consider how mankind may be connected like one great family in fraternal ties—I endulge a fond, perhaps an enthusiastic idea, that as the world is evidently much less barbarous than it has been, its melioration must still be progressive—that nations are becoming more humanized in their policy—that the subjects of ambition & causes for hostility are daily diminishing—and in fine, that the period is not very remote when the benefits of a liberal & free commerce will, pretty generally, succeed to the devastations & horrors of war.
Smitty-48 wrote:Good lord, you Americans really are being Canadianized at a breathtaking pace, stunning that any of you for even a moment would embrace this collectivist "society" mumbo jumbo. Insidious!
Come and take this society from your cold dead hands? Balderdash!
Not Really a Leftist Totalitarian wrote:“I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education.”
Them poor Americans seem to have been Canadianized a long time ago..And then got totally Canadianized and wrote:He who made us would have been a pitiful bungler, if he had made the rules of our moral conduct a matter of science. For one man of science, there are thousands who are not. What would have become of them? Man was destined for society. His morality, therefore, was to be formed to this object. He was endowed with a sense of right and wrong, merely relative to this.
