PartyOf5 wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:22 am
Does WW3 come before or after Civil War 2?
WW3 is a civil war of the whole world.
This is 1848 all over again. 2023 is going to see serious revolts like the revolutions of 1848 and 1849.
If you look at the conditions that led to those revolts and the creation of the modern nation state, we are right back there.
- Revolutionary Technology changing life
- New press bring political awareness
- Rejection of values and ideas of the current leaders
- Crop Failures and food scarcity
- Economic hardship
- Unemployment
- Absolutism of current leaders
- Middle and working classes desire for reform
These Revolutions occurred all over the world during this period, they were not directly linked and differed a little from place to place, but the core causes were the same. A changing world and leaders who demanded complete control.
The Revolutionaries were largely put down or given small carrots for their efforts, but within a generation the Revolutionaries got pretty much everything they asked for.
Re: Coming Collapse of Europe
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:04 pm
by C-Mag
Good video on the revolution of 1848
Re: Coming Collapse of Europe
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:37 am
by C-Mag
RAND think tank doc get's out, and it shows the US duplicity
Ukraniots don't care if the war is manufactured by the West for purely selfish reasons. Hell, NeoCons absolutely applaud & support this kind of thing.
I had a guy tell me yesterday how the Russians are getting defeated - on the same day that Putin was accepting the 4 breakaway regions into the Russian confederation!? Smart guy I've known for 40 years - Jesus Christ, the cognitive dissonance was palpable.
Re: Coming Collapse of Europe
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:25 pm
by C-Mag
Martin Hash wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:02 pm
Ukraniots don't care if the war is manufactured by the West for purely selfish reasons. Hell, NeoCons absolutely applaud & support this kind of thing.
I had a guy tell me yesterday how the Russians are getting defeated - on the same day that Putin was accepting the 4 breakaway regions into the Russian confederation!? Smart guy I've known for 40 years - Jesus Christ, the cognitive dissonance was palpable.
I finally understand the mood of people leading up to WWI.
The 21st C has been a lesson historical tragedies
Re: Coming Collapse of Europe
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:38 am
by C-Mag
Matt Bracken, and author and former SEAL has been doing great work on who blew up Nordstream over at Gab. Here's a quote, but I'm going to link his page and there's a lot more there.
The USN did it, 100%.
That part of the Baltic is practically like the Chesapeake Bay. It’s a transparent NATO aquarium. USN warships and helos spent all summer conducting underwater UUV / ROV drone “mine detection and demolition” drills. You have seen all the news stories.
If anybody else tried to explode 4 simultaneous pipeline bombs, in pairs, 20 KM apart, (NS1 and NS2), NATO and the USN would know ALL about it.
A medium-size fish cannot swim in and out of the Baltic (50' controlling depth) without being recorded on audio, video, hydro/pressure etc.
Russia has bare transit rights [during peacetime] from Kaliningrad and St. Pete, but that is it. Every Russian ship going in and out of the Baltic is virtually escorted front and rear. The Western Baltic is a small lake surrounded by NATO nations, plus NATO-cooperating Sweden and Finland.
The USN did it. Period.
I take no joy in saying that, as a long-ago frogman who locked in and out of submerged nuclear submarines, rode in mini-subs (SDVS), trained with every conceivable kind of underwater demolition, (too long to list), and dived with air bottles, mixed gas, and pure oxygen (for no bubbles). IOW, I know whereof I speak.
To believe otherwise than the USN did this is like believing the Russians snuck up the Thames River in a mini mystery sub to blow up 4 key British infrastructure sites, at the same time, and got away undetected.
(I will allow that the USN may have “sheep-dipped” some Poles in on the operation, to keep them quiet forever, but IMHO, it was a USN operation.)
Dunno. This doesn’t fit with motive for the US or Russia. Best theory I’ve heard is that the Poles are locking the rest of Europe into conflict so they don’t get left alone against the Russians.
Re: Coming Collapse of Europe
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:39 am
by C-Mag
SuburbanFarmer wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:25 pm
Dunno. This doesn’t fit with motive for the US or Russia. Best theory I’ve heard is that the Poles are locking the rest of Europe into conflict so they don’t get left alone against the Russians.
It looks bad for the US.
We have Biden and Nuland saying they wound end it.
We have US Navy ships in the area leading up to the attack.
We have US Navy helicopters over the breaks just prior to the attacks.
