Was Napoleon Positive or Negative for France Overall

[GloryofGreece]

The circumstances and events were, of course, different, yet the men had similar characteristics, and represented similar things for their respective peoples.

In your opinion did he help France overall?

[Mercury]

The circumstances and events were, of course, different, yet the men had similar characteristics, and represented similar things for their respective peoples.

In your opinion did he help France overall?

The Napoleonic Code provided a positive alternative to the arbitrariness of feudal laws, and served as a means for European civil culture to evolve toward its modern form.

He did get ~500,000 of his men killed in Russia, so an argument could easily be made that he had a net negative impact on France. If I had to pick positive or negative, right now, I would lean positive (in the long run).

What do you think?

[GloryofGreece]

The circumstances and events were, of course, different, yet the men had similar characteristics, and represented similar things for their respective peoples.

In your opinion did he help France overall?

The Napoleonic Code provided a positive alternative to the arbitrariness of feudal laws, and served as a means for European civil culture to evolve toward its modern form.

He did get ~500,000 of his men killed in Russia, so an argument could easily be made that he had a net negative impact on France. If I had to pick positive or negative, right now, I would lean positive (in the long run).

What do you think?

I think considering the fallout of the Revolution and the following Committee and then Directory that Napoleon was a better alternative than the former, and socially he did a lot that goes mostly unnoticed. I think had he untied most of Europe like against Britain it would have been interesting. French Empire would be the only real balance to English hegemony. I think that is/was a good thing as well. And like I said I believe Napoleon military actions were overwhelmingly defensive in nature and many times he had no alternative.

[Mercury]

In your opinion did he help France overall?

The Napoleonic Code provided a positive alternative to the arbitrariness of feudal laws, and served as a means for European civil culture to evolve toward its modern form.

He did get ~500,000 of his men killed in Russia, so an argument could easily be made that he had a net negative impact on France. If I had to pick positive or negative, right now, I would lean positive (in the long run).

What do you think?

I think considering the fallout of the Revolution and the following Committee and then Directory that Napoleon was a better alternative than the former, and socially he did a lot that goes mostly unnoticed. I think had he untied most of Europe like against Britain it would have been interesting. French Empire would be the only real balance to English hegemony. I think that is/was a good thing as well. And like I said I believe Napoleon military actions were overwhelmingly defensive in nature and many times he had no alternative.

I would be curious to hear what modern Europeans (especially French) think of him. I am an American, and I don't think I've ever discussed Napoleon with a Euro before.

[TheReal_ND]

Go to /pol/ and pester somebody with a tricolor flag. You're welcome.

[Mercury]

Go down to the docks and fuck yourself with a broken boat oar.

[TheReal_ND]

Dude just go to /pol/ and talk to Europeans

[Mercury]

Took that wrong. My bad.

[Okeefenokee]

Go down to the docks and fuck yourself with a broken boat oar.

Rude.

[Mercury]

Go down to the docks and fuck yourself with a broken boat oar.

Rude.

It was, and I acknowledged that it was wrong. I took it like a piss off, but it wasn't.