Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Otern » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:39 am

StCapps wrote:
Otern wrote:Just three more days now.

Any interest, or did I make a wall of text for no reason?

Anyway, I've already voted in advance. And it looks like the one's I'm voting for will do pretty great this election.
Is AP going to blow it? They've taken quite the hit in the polls right before y'all vote.
Hard to say really.

My impression is AP had a great opportunity to do well, but they ruined it by having Jonas Gahr Støre as a leader. Seems like people want AP policy, but they don't trust their leader, for a number of reasons.

Mainly, he's caught a lot of flak in the media for not really living up to his party's official policy in his private life. This has never really influenced Norwegian politics before, it's nothing like in the US. But this election season, he's been caught with his pants down way too often, on some of the main issues AP is making their points on.

One of AP's main campaign issues is how the conservative government in Norway removed a lot of the worker's rights, and made it way too easy to exploit workers. Støre is a wealthy man, born into wealth, and it turns out he own shares in a company that was exploiting their workers even more than what the new laws put forth by the conservatives allowed. So it made AP look really bad. Then he sold his shares in that company for a massive profit. A leader in H could get away with something without too much trouble, as it's expected of them, but not a leader in AP.

AP and pretty much every party in Norway requires the oil fund to not be invested in companies working with nuclear weapons. Then it turns out Støre has a fund investing in one of those companies himself.

A lot of people who has generally voted AP, are now flocking to SV and SP because of the hypocrisy of the AP leadership. They've been hypocritical before, but now it's too visible, and on too many issues. Norway's most popular party is gradually losing trust among the population, and they aren't really addressing it.

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:42 am

How are the Greens doing?
Are you going to tell us who you voted for and why?
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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Otern » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:55 am

Montegriffo wrote:How are the Greens doing?
Are you going to tell us who you voted for and why?
They're doing well, for such a small party. Maybe around 4%. A slight increase from last election. They'll get their one mandate in this election too.

And the party I voted for is pretty obvious, as are the reasons;
SP, for their agricultural policy, their stance on sovereignty, their EU opposition, their centralization opposition, and their lack of the usual AP/H/FrP-scaremongering about terrorists/muslims/right wingers.

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:12 am

Otern wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:How are the Greens doing?
Are you going to tell us who you voted for and why?
They're doing well, for such a small party. Maybe around 4%. A slight increase from last election. They'll get their one mandate in this election too.

And the party I voted for is pretty obvious, as are the reasons;
SP, for their agricultural policy, their stance on sovereignty, their EU opposition, their centralization opposition, and their lack of the usual AP/H/FrP-scaremongering about terrorists/muslims/right wingers.
Farmers are mostly coservatives over here. Not always the best protectors of the environment (especially the large farms). Many rely on EU imigration for labour so they are split on Brexit.
Still, better to be run by farmers than big business, politicians or soldiers IMO.
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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Otern » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:21 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Otern wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:How are the Greens doing?
Are you going to tell us who you voted for and why?
They're doing well, for such a small party. Maybe around 4%. A slight increase from last election. They'll get their one mandate in this election too.

And the party I voted for is pretty obvious, as are the reasons;
SP, for their agricultural policy, their stance on sovereignty, their EU opposition, their centralization opposition, and their lack of the usual AP/H/FrP-scaremongering about terrorists/muslims/right wingers.
Farmers are mostly coservatives over here. Not always the best protectors of the environment (especially the large farms). Many rely on EU imigration for labour so they are split on Brexit.
Still, better to be run by farmers than big business, politicians or soldiers IMO.
Farmers are pretty much split between conservatives and liberals here. And since Norwegian agriculture is mainly about small farms, we're not having too much influence from the large farms, although there's some.

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Hastur » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:26 pm

I like the looks of this.
:drool: :clap:
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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Otern » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:31 pm

Hastur wrote:I like the looks of this.
:drool: :clap:
Looks pretty close.

AP is doing awful, H is doing bad, FrP is doing ok.

The smaller parties are doing well, and SP is doing great.

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Hastur » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:55 pm

Otern wrote:
Hastur wrote:I like the looks of this.
:drool: :clap:
Looks pretty close.

AP is doing awful, H is doing bad, FrP is doing ok.

The smaller parties are doing well, and SP is doing great.
Looks like you won't have to endure another socialist regime.
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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Otern » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:00 pm

Hastur wrote:
Otern wrote:
Hastur wrote:I like the looks of this.
:drool: :clap:
Looks pretty close.

AP is doing awful, H is doing bad, FrP is doing ok.

The smaller parties are doing well, and SP is doing great.
Looks like you won't have to endure another socialist regime.
Oh, the socialists are doing fine this year. AP is doing bad.

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Re: Norwegian parliamentary election 2017

Post by Hastur » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:34 pm

Otern wrote:
Hastur wrote:
Otern wrote:
Looks pretty close.

AP is doing awful, H is doing bad, FrP is doing ok.

The smaller parties are doing well, and SP is doing great.
Looks like you won't have to endure another socialist regime.
Oh, the socialists are doing fine this year. AP is doing bad.
AP are socialists as well. Lite Sweden's S. Most Scandinavians are so numb we don't even see it anymore.
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