Poker Has Fallen

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Poker Has Fallen

Post by KerningChameleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:42 pm

The last traditional game, No Limit Heads-Up Texas Hold'em, has conclusively fallen to AI supremacy, as Libratus defeats four masters in a 20-day tournament by a whopping $1.5 million lead.
With only a few hours of the Brains vs Artifical Intelligence competition left, Libratus has won more than $1.5m worth of chips from the humans. It would take a miracle for the human players, Dong Kim, Jason Les, Jimmy Chou and Daniel McCauley – all specialists in no-limit Texas Hold’em, a two-player unlimited bid form of poker – to make a comeback.

It’s a crushing defeat for humanity, but a major milestone for artificial intelligence.
The humans were paired up with duplicate hands in a configuration I don't completely understand, but apparently that along with the sheer number of hands played completely removed the "luck factor" from the challenge. This was solely a test of Libratus' ability to bluff and bet strategically, and it passed with flying colors:

“We didn’t tell Libratus how to play poker. We gave it the rules of poker and said ‘learn on your own’,” said Brown. The bot started playing randomly but over the course of playing trillions of hands was able to refine its approach and arrive at a winning strategy.

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They have also learned from Libratus, thanks to the robot’s aggressive style of play that sees it make huge bets to win small prize pots.

“It’s just not something a human would normally do, but it forces you to be on your toes for each game,” said Les.

“It’s almost like we’ve been shellshocked into being much stronger players. Nothing anyone does will seem that crazy any more.”

For Brown, seeing Libratus win has induced a “proud parent feeling”.

“When I see the bot bluff the humans, I’m like, ‘I didn’t tell it to do that. I had no idea it was even capable of doing that.’ It’s satisfying to know I created something that can do that.”
Of course, nobody spends millions of dollars to build a machine just to school humans at card games, there's real world implications here:
The algorithms that power Libratus aren’t specific to poker, which means the system could have a variety of applications outside of recreational games, from negotiating business deals to setting military or cybersecurity strategy and planning medical treatment – anywhere where humans are required to do strategic reasoning with imperfect information.

“Poker is the least of our concerns here,” said Roman V Yampolskiy, a professor of computer science at the University of Louisville. “You have a machine that can kick your ass in business and military applications. I’m worried about how humanity as a whole will deal with that.”

For Brown, Libratus challenges preconceptions about machine intelligence versus human intelligence.

“People have this idea that poker is a very human game and that bots can’t bluff, for example. That’s totally wrong. It’s not about reading your opponent and trying to tell if they are lying, it’s about the cards and probabilities,” he said.
Emphasis mine. I think that was the last of the Big traditional games AIs had yet to conquer. I think after this all that's left is video games, like Starcraft or Civilization. An AI here, an AI there, a bot for this task, a bot for that... algorithms and learning computers and roombas of all shapes and sizes rule the world now. When can I actually vote for Watson For President already? Hail Siliconia.
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:52 pm

They sure grow up fast :(

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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by KerningChameleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:56 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:They sure grow up fast :(
My favorite moment (which you can't watch because they didn't record VODs for the streams for some reason) was midway through they tried to pull a Kasparov and accuse the engineers of cheating for being deceptive with the rules or whatever because the bot adapted to their shifting strategies and continued to own them.

Hey, whiners, here's an idea: maybe humans actually just suck?
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:05 pm

Damn, this is going to make online poker a lot more tricky.I'm going to have to come up with a few new strategies.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:09 pm

The next level is aggressive AI that attack other AI.
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by KerningChameleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:28 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:The next level is aggressive AI that attack other AI.
That's the beauty of it all, AI used to be like robotics, pie-in-the-sky dreams that would be nice but don't we have more pressing things to be spending our research money on? Just like how the aerial drone came along and suddenly robotics is now a legitimate and hot field that everybody wants a piece of, military, police, consumer. Well, now that dam's been broken for AI, reinforcement learning was the final key. Genie's out of the bottle, welcome to the brave new world. Now it's a goddamn gold rush to get in, the military, intelligence, government, financial sector, good ol Googlebooksoft and everybody else is running at a fever pitch. Whoever makes the best and most useful AI wins all the marbles. And you have to be in it, cause if you don't, you'll be left in the dust, too bad so sad without AI you can't even try to compete on a global level anymore.

For the past century, if you didn't have at least a nuke or two, nobody really took you seriously on the global stage. Now, in addition to that, if you don't have AIs running your economy and military and bureaucracy, you'll be a nobody, the Big Boy Tech Nations will be running circles around you and you won't even be able to comprehend why.
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:31 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:The next level is aggressive AI that attack other AI.
How long before Skynet declares war on us organics?
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:49 pm

KerningChameleon wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:The next level is aggressive AI that attack other AI.
That's the beauty of it all, AI used to be like robotics, pie-in-the-sky dreams that would be nice but don't we have more pressing things to be spending our research money on? Just like how the aerial drone came along and suddenly robotics is now a legitimate and hot field that everybody wants a piece of, military, police, consumer. Well, now that dam's been broken for AI, reinforcement learning was the final key. Genie's out of the bottle, welcome to the brave new world. Now it's a goddamn gold rush to get in, the military, intelligence, government, financial sector, good ol Googlebooksoft and everybody else is running at a fever pitch. Whoever makes the best and most useful AI wins all the marbles. And you have to be in it, cause if you don't, you'll be left in the dust, too bad so sad without AI you can't even try to compete on a global level anymore.

For the past century, if you didn't have at least a nuke or two, nobody really took you seriously on the global stage. Now, in addition to that, if you don't have AIs running your economy and military and bureaucracy, you'll be a nobody, the Big Boy Tech Nations will be running circles around you and you won't even be able to comprehend why.
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by de officiis » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Wish they could've worked a poker game like that into Ex Machina. Eva and Kyoko vs. Nathan and Caleb.
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Re: Poker Has Fallen

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:13 am

Can one of you nerds explain to me how this poker terminator is going to help with military and economic planning?

It took the damn killbot trillions of hands to learn how the game works and make decisions based on that experience... how do we get trillions of practice military/economic hands into its evil cybernetic brain that reliably relate to a complex, real world that we can't model and don't have precise rules for?

Do we let the inexperienced AI build the model and then let it create its own practice runs?

How do we know when it is reliably getting the 'right' answer in that case... assuming the right answer is the one that conforms to human values?

I don't like it.
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