THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:36 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:43 pm
I wish Trump was running a shadow government

unfortunately I don't think he's that dynamic

Trump is like a field dressing to stop the bleeding, but he's not like a surgeon with a cure
I don't think you give him enough credit. He created the "Office Of The Former President" for a reason.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-es ... a%E2%80%9D
Former President Donald Trump established an official post-presidency office in Palm Beach County, Florida, on Monday to oversee his post-presidential affairs.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:39 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:36 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:43 pm
I wish Trump was running a shadow government

unfortunately I don't think he's that dynamic

Trump is like a field dressing to stop the bleeding, but he's not like a surgeon with a cure
I don't think you give him enough credit.
well, in fairness, he didn't really get anything done in four years, and then got beat by Biden

so his track record is actually one of failure
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:42 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:39 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:36 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:43 pm
I wish Trump was running a shadow government

unfortunately I don't think he's that dynamic

Trump is like a field dressing to stop the bleeding, but he's not like a surgeon with a cure
I don't think you give him enough credit.
well, in fairness, he didn't really get anything done in four years, and then got beat by Biden

so his track record is actually one of failure
Are you comparing that to Biden, or in general? Also what qualifies as a failure? The bar has been set pretty low so far.

Side note, Trump succeeded a hell of a lot more than Biden did... now if you compare how many times Biden has fucked up... Biden wins.

Trump's Accomplishments:

https://www.magapill.com/
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:47 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:42 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:39 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:36 am


I don't think you give him enough credit.
well, in fairness, he didn't really get anything done in four years, and then got beat by Biden

so his track record is actually one of failure
Are you comparing that to Biden, or in general?
I'm just looking at what practical permanent results Trump achieved in four years

executive orders don't count, Biden rescinded all those on day one

he picked Gorsuch & Coney Barret, but really, any GOP President would have picked them

and Kavanaugh was a bad pick, Bushie Neocon, so he loses points for that
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:00 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:47 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:42 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:39 am


well, in fairness, he didn't really get anything done in four years, and then got beat by Biden

so his track record is actually one of failure
Are you comparing that to Biden, or in general?
I'm just looking at what practical permanent results Trump achieved in four years

executive orders don't count, Biden rescinded all those on day one

he picked Gorsuch & Coney Barret, but really, any GOP President would have picked them
And yet, you ignore the meat... good to know.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:01 am

being better than Biden

is not an accomplishment

talk about a low bar
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:11 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:00 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:47 am
The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:42 am


Are you comparing that to Biden, or in general?
I'm just looking at what practical permanent results Trump achieved in four years

executive orders don't count, Biden rescinded all those on day one

he picked Gorsuch & Coney Barret, but really, any GOP President would have picked them
And yet, you ignore the meat... good to know.
I didn't endorse Trump in the first place

I understand why he won, and Trump doesn't bother me per se, but I am not in his base and never was
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:19 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:01 am
being better than Biden

is not an accomplishment

talk about a low bar
the principle benefit of Trump is as an agent provocateur inciting the Establishment to bear their fangs

but in terms of permanent legislative effects, Trump was a nothing burger in of himself

it's not like he got the PATRIOT Act repealed, in fact he went and doubled down on that sort of thing

then they used it against him, so he shot himself in the foot

he threw the populists under the bus and hired the Neocons ; Mattis, McMaster & Kelly

Trump ran as a populist, but once elected turned into a conventional Neocon GOP POTUS

I said that was going to happen back in 2016, which is why I didn't endorse him

I wasn't expecting the TDS to be so extreme, but that was more of a side benefit, it didn't change the laws

now that Trump has failed to get reelected, the Democrats have overthrown his agenda easily

he didn't produce results which would give him the landslide win that he needed

he vastly over promised and under delivered
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:37 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:19 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:01 am
being better than Biden

is not an accomplishment

talk about a low bar
the principle benefit of Trump is as an agent provocateur inciting the Establishment to bear their fangs

but in terms of permanent legislative effects, Trump was a nothing burger in of himself

it's not like he got the PATRIOT Act repealed, in fact he went and doubled down on that sort of thing

then they used it against him, so he shot himself in the foot

he threw the populists under the bus and hired the Neocons ; Mattis, McMaster & Kelly

Trump ran as a populist, but once elected turned into a conventional Neocon GOP POTUS

I said that was going to happen back in 2016, which is why I didn't endorse him

I wasn't expecting the TDS to be so extreme, but that was more of a side benefit, it didn't change the laws

now that Trump has failed to get reelected, the Democrats have overthrown his agenda easily

he didn't produce results which would give him the landslide win that he needed

he vastly over promised and under delivered
Wow, it's almost like you have ignored the majority of what is going on in this forum...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:39 am

The Conservative wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:37 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:19 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:01 am
being better than Biden

is not an accomplishment

talk about a low bar
the principle benefit of Trump is as an agent provocateur inciting the Establishment to bear their fangs

but in terms of permanent legislative effects, Trump was a nothing burger in of himself

it's not like he got the PATRIOT Act repealed, in fact he went and doubled down on that sort of thing

then they used it against him, so he shot himself in the foot

he threw the populists under the bus and hired the Neocons ; Mattis, McMaster & Kelly

Trump ran as a populist, but once elected turned into a conventional Neocon GOP POTUS

I said that was going to happen back in 2016, which is why I didn't endorse him

I wasn't expecting the TDS to be so extreme, but that was more of a side benefit, it didn't change the laws

now that Trump has failed to get reelected, the Democrats have overthrown his agenda easily

he didn't produce results which would give him the landslide win that he needed

he vastly over promised and under delivered
Wow, it's almost like you have ignored the majority of what is going on in this forum...
But Biden is whataboutism
*yip*