Europe, the not boring thread

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Europe, the not boring thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:44 pm

Muslim immigration problems go here
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Arguing about Muslims in Europe go here
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Any other thread as well because we love obsessing about Muslims day in day out here

This thread is for discussing European news. It may involve policy regarding immigration but it is not to devolve into talking about Muslims for weeks on end.

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That is all. Now let's talk about European news

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Guns, weapons and drugs have been seized from a network of right-wing extremists operating paramilitary training camps in German forests amid fears of a potential attack.

Investigators in the state of Thuringia said at least 13 known suspects were part of the group, including some from an “internationally active right-wing movement”.

The state office of criminal investigation said short and long-range guns, ammunition and other weaponry was uncovered alongside a small amount of drugs.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:06 pm

literally Hitler wrote:Things aren't looking good for sure. I still can't believe that I have to hide from my own government behind seven proxies, and can only have conversations irl after extremely vetting a person, lest they rat me out. Merkel's party is actually campaigning on twitter with their ability to hack pretty much every piece of hardware (used by guess who - right wingers) with their "Bundes-Trojan". Few years ago, I thought this stuff only happens in movies or history books.

He doesn't want a climate of fear in this country, our Stasi minister said. Nonsense. He doesn't want it for the invaders, but he's perfectly fine with intimidating the natives. That's a multiethnic country for you.

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Post by Ex-California » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:42 pm

So this time when Germany goes on an extermination mission its going to be against Germans?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:44 pm

Yes. And you and your children are actually next.

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Post by Viktorthepirate » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:55 pm

Depressing

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Post by Penner » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:24 pm

Ah, another European thread.
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Post by BjornP » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:49 am

Well, that's because we are so intriguing, exotic and fascinating.

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Post by ssu » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:28 am

Actually, there is a big scandal that hit the Bundeswehr, which likely will get far more focus than the dismal situation of the Bundeswehr in general.

So a Bundeswehr officer with neo-nazi/extreme right connections registered as a Syrian refugee and was planning to make attacks on German politicians. Now that this happens in Germany and especially in the Bundeswehr is a huge thing in the country. Anywhere else they might see this as an individual case and make the normal inquiry about it, but not in Germany.
In the course of the investigation, it emerged that Franco A., who doesn't speak any Arabic, had registered as a Syrian refugee in early 2016.

It has also emerged that A. harbored right-wing extremist views, which he clearly expressed in a masters thesis he submitted in 2014. According to German media reports, he argued that immigration was causing a "genocide" in Europe. He also reportedly kept memorabilia of the Wehrmacht, Germany's armed forces during the Nazi era.

However, while a French commander informed the suspect's German superiors, they did not trigger any disciplinary actions and the paper was buried - a fact that German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen has called "unacceptable."

In an interview earlier this week, she lambasted the army for a "misunderstood esprit de corps" and officers "who looked the other way."

It's still unclear why A.'s superiors didn't involve the MAD (the military's counter intelligence services, the Militärische Abschirmdienst), which is tasked with preventing espionage and sabotage in the army, both in Germany and abroad. In order to do so, the MAD checks soldiers for possible extremist attitudes and activities.
See Deutsche Welle

And of course, the whole thing is a great scoop for the media, here's the British Independent:
A cell of suspected right-wing extremists operating within the German army are being investigated as the probe into an alleged terror plot widens.

Prosecutors are investigating a group of up to five people surrounding a soldier accused of posing as a Syrian refugee to carry out a “false flag” attack.

The suspect, named only as Franco A, was arrested after police traced a loaded gun he stashed at Vienna International Airport but investigations at his barracks have revealed signs of a wider network.
See German lieutenant who posed as refugee in 'false flag' terror plot could be part of neo-Nazi army Network

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:31 am

Franco
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The fascists are at it again

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:16 pm

What is it really that takes the immigrants over the Mediterranean to Europe? That question was discussed in yesterday's SVT Aktuellt 21. SVT's answer: Economic immigrants who want a better life and who think Europe is "a single big ATM."

This year, 82,000 people have traveled to Europe via the Mediterranean. 2000 has died on sea voyage.

This was, among other things, what was discussed in yesterday's SVT News. And many viewers probably perceived the broadcast as unusually honest.

It was SVT's foreign commentator Erika Bjerström who answered the question of what is taking over the Mediterranean to the EU.

She had very concrete and straightforward answers: young men travel from non-war democracies who lack refugee status, which sees Europe as a "cash machine" and travels here for a better life.

Migrant streams come from West Africa. These young men, for it's almost just men, come from countries such as Senegal, Nigeria, Côte d'Ivoire and Gambia. These are democracies with good economic growth. But these young men have heard about Europe in rosy red skimmer, and want it to seek happiness and a better life," says Erika Bjerström in SVT Aktuell's live broadcast on Thursday night.

92 percent of those traveling across the Mediterranean to Europe travel through Libya, explains Erika Bjerström.

"The big problem is that these young men are wrongly informed. They are looking at Europe as a single big ATM. They have grown up with relatives going to collect money that they then send home to their villages in Africa. They must, therefore, receive accurate information that it is dangerous and illegal to enter Europe in this way.

Erika Bjerström points out that men can not even stay in Europe because they are "economic migrants".

"90 percent are just migrants in search of a better life," she says.

The EU is currently investing in information campaigns to make immigrants stay in their homelands. Indeed, the EU has very big problems in managing the tens of thousands of immigrants who succeed in moving from Africa to Europe. Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic refuse to receive them in their countries.

Erika Bjerström believes that the EU is completely taken on the bed. She points out that this is about a globalization "which goes on overcrowding".

According to Bjerström, it has gone so far that the EU now wants to build large camps to catch immigrants already in Africa.

"A big taboo in the EU now is that we want to focus on collection camps in North Africa, where we will sell economic migrants from those with refugee status. And those who are economic migrants should be able to return to their homelands under worthy forms, "she said.

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