Revolutions

[Montegriffo]

It took some time to work out what the English revolution was.
Nobody here calls it that, we just call it the civil war.

I’m not sure that you could call it a Revolution... at least not in hindsight.

It was a revolt against the monarchy but I never really thought of it as revolution before.
A lot of good castles died without changing very much.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It took some time to work out what the English revolution was.
Nobody here calls it that, we just call it the civil war.

I’m not sure that you could call it a Revolution... at least not in hindsight.

It was a revolt against the monarchy but I never really thought of it as revolution before.
A lot of good castles died without changing very much.

I mean... I guess you can only call something a "revolution" if it's successful. Otherwise, it's just a "civil war", or a "rebellion".

History being written by the victors, and all.

[Montegriffo]

I’m not sure that you could call it a Revolution... at least not in hindsight.

It was a revolt against the monarchy but I never really thought of it as revolution before.
A lot of good castles died without changing very much.

I mean... I guess you can only call something a "revolution" if it's successful. Otherwise, it's just a "civil war", or a "rebellion".

History being written by the victors, and all.

You can't even say it was unsuccessful. They chopped the King's head off and won parliamentary supremacy. It's just that Cromwell was far worse than the monarchy so they reverted back to a King after he died.

[TheReal_ND]

It took some time to work out what the English revolution was.
Nobody here calls it that, we just call it the civil war.

Mike never described it as a revolution on the podcast it's just the one he starts with on his "Revolutions" podcast. He then describes what a revolution is and muses about just what the English Civil War has to do with revolutions, as it does share some traits and is apparently referred to as a revolution by some people.

[DrYouth]

It makes sense to include it...
Even if only to set the context for the American Revolution.
The American revolution makes a lot more sense when you understand the English Civil War or whatever it was.

It also explains a lot of what happened in the Glorious Revolution... which interestingly doesn't get covered at all...

[TheReal_ND]

It makes sense to include it...
Even if only to set the context for the American Revolution.
The American revolution makes a lot more sense when you understand the English Civil War or whatever it was.

It also explains a lot of what happened in the Glorious Revolution... which interestingly doesn't get covered at all...

Our Revolution is a direct descent of over a thousand years of evolution.

Weriguild, Daneslaw, Magna Carta to Constitution. It's a grand arch that emphasizes how liberal our race is.

[DrYouth]

Our Revolution is a direct descent of over a thousand years of evolution.

Weriguild, Daneslaw, Magna Carta to Constitution. It's a grand arch that emphasizes how liberal our race is.

What race?
The "English" race?
Does this include the Scandinavians, the Dutch, the French?
The Romans? which of the "Barbarian" races?... The Celts?
God forbid the Spanish....

Race is weaksauce in the discussion of Revolution...

[brewster]

You can't even say it was unsuccessful. They chopped the King's head off and won parliamentary supremacy. It's just that Cromwell was far worse than the monarchy so they reverted back to a King after he died.

It's something I admire about the English. They tried military dictatorship, said "that sucked!", and never did it again. Unlike countless other nations. I couldn't finish the French Rev series, got too granular for me to follow with intermittent listening.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Our Revolution is a direct descent of over a thousand years of evolution.

Weriguild, Daneslaw, Magna Carta to Constitution. It's a grand arch that emphasizes how liberal our race is.

What race?
The "English" race?
Does this include the Scandinavians, the Dutch, the French?
The Romans? which of the "Barbarian" races?... The Celts?
God forbid the Spanish....

Race is weaksauce in the discussion of Revolution...

Doc, doc, doc.... you have to FEEL what race someone is, in order to classify them. I mean OBVIOUSLY, if they’re light-skinned, they’re of your race. But not with the slanted eyes. Those are another race. And of course the Celts are white now too, because they are in Europe. But not the Gypsies, because they’re different. Oh, and dark-skinned Italians are fine, because Europe.

It’s all about the feel, man.

Dr Seuss wrote a very instructional book on race, concerning Sneetches on beaches. It has great relevance to race relations.

[brewster]

Doc, doc, doc.... you have to FEEL what race someone is, in order to classify them. I mean OBVIOUSLY, if they’re light-skinned, they’re of your race. But not with the slanted eyes. Those are another race. And of course the Celts are white now too, because they are in Europe. But not the Gypsies, because they’re different. Oh, and dark-skinned Italians are fine, because Europe.

It’s all about the feel, man.

Funny, I heard this guy, Hoboken born director Sam Esmail,. going off on the "experience" of being a POC.

Can you tell if he's Spanish, German, Italian, Jewish or Egyptian(actual)?