Living In The Bronx

[brewster]

And your refusal to acknowledge the difference between a metropolitan area and just one of the independent jurisdictions that make up the New York Metropolitan Area.

Now there's a straw man that doesn't even get you much ahead in the argument. As I said above even including Eastern Pennsylvania 2 states away New York has far less crime than Chicago. Is that your entire argument? That by including its wealthy suburbs Chicago's crime rate doesn't look quite as bad?

[Montegriffo]

And your refusal to acknowledge the difference between a metropolitan area and just one of the independent jurisdictions that make up the New York Metropolitan Area.

Now there's a straw man that doesn't even get you much ahead in the argument. As I said above even including Eastern Pennsylvania 2 states away New York has far less crime than Chicago. Is that your entire argument? That by including its wealthy suburbs Chicago's crime rate doesn't look quite as bad?

I think his entire argument boils down to black < white.

[Speaker to Animals]

When the facts dispute your narrative, just scream RACIST really loud. That works.

[Speaker to Animals]

Think about how morally and intellectually bankrupt you have to be to feel the need to scream RACISM! when somebody mentions racial differences in crime statistics. When the truth is so dangerous to your worldview that you have to censor or castigate anybody who dares mention it.. you've got a problem. The problem is you. Not anybody else. Not "racism". It's you.

[Okeefenokee]

Pertinent,

Here's a third fact that is just not controversial, although it sounds controversial, and that is that different ethnic groups commit violent crimes at different rates. You can go to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Look it up on their website. The homicide rate among African Americans is about seven or eight times higher than it is among European Americans. And terrorism, go to the Global Terrorist Database, and you find that worldwide the overwhelming majority of suicide terrorist acts are committed by Islamist extremist groups.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/25730/ha ... en-shapiro

[Montegriffo]

https://vittana.org/26-poverty-and-crime-statistics

Here’s a harsh reality: in the United States, the problem is black on black crime. It’s not Latino on Latino crime. It’s not even black on white or white on black crime. We’ve focused on racial statistics, but the truth that comes from the data provided by the Bureau of Justice Statistics is that the United States is dealing with a poor on poor wave of crime.

These poverty and crime statistics prove that when the standard of living is depressed, the individuals living in poverty see the benefits of committing a crime to meet their basic needs is worth the risk of getting caught. And, when severe poverty is considered, there is a direct correlation to a rise in violent crime.

This is because people in the poorest of conditions are desperate. With desperation comes a willingness to survive.

Crime isn't caused by the colour of your skin, it's caused by poverty.

[Speaker to Animals]

https://vittana.org/26-poverty-and-crime-statistics

Here’s a harsh reality: in the United States, the problem is black on black crime. It’s not Latino on Latino crime. It’s not even black on white or white on black crime. We’ve focused on racial statistics, but the truth that comes from the data provided by the Bureau of Justice Statistics is that the United States is dealing with a poor on poor wave of crime.

These poverty and crime statistics prove that when the standard of living is depressed, the individuals living in poverty see the benefits of committing a crime to meet their basic needs is worth the risk of getting caught. And, when severe poverty is considered, there is a direct correlation to a rise in violent crime.

This is because people in the poorest of conditions are desperate. With desperation comes a willingness to survive.

Crime isn't caused by the colour of your skin, it's caused by poverty.

That doesn't even bear out. Violent crime is not nearly as high in white poverty. I live in Appalachia, dude. Extremely poor folk live right down the road from me. There's no violent crime.

[brewster]

That doesn't even bear out. Violent crime is not nearly as high in white poverty. I live in Appalachia, dude. Extremely poor folk live right down the road from me. There's no violent crime.

Data, not feelz.

http://www.sj-r.com/news/20170315/repor ... rural-poor

CHICAGO — People living in poverty are more likely to become victims of violent crime than higher income earners whether they live in cities, suburbs or rural areas, but the rural poor experience crime at higher rates, according to a Wednesday report by a Chicago research group.
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The organization’s data show that Alexander County, along Illinois’ southernmost border, had the highest rate of violent offenses per 100,000 residents in 2015. The tally included sexual assault and robbery, but excluded murder. The Mississippi River county, among the state’s poorest, has been hit hard by years of unemployment, a housing crisis and dwindling social services. Following behind Alexander for the rate of violent offenses are northern Illinois’ Winnebago County and Vermilion County in east-central Illinois. Cook County ranks eighth.

[Speaker to Animals]

I literally live around poor whites every bit as poor as poor blacks in Chicago, probably more so since they don't get the same gibs. Nobody is dying. Nobody is getting shot. Nobody is stealing my shit. No violent crime anywhere.

It does not bear out.

Poor whites do not commit nearly as much violent crime as blacks. Poverty is not the factor.

[Speaker to Animals]

There was a huge controversy a few years ago when somebody mentioned the fact that wealthy blacks are more likely to end up in prison for violent crime than poor whites. It was actually true. The left lost their God damned minds. They were screaming racist everywhere and trying to ruin peoples' lives for daring to mention it. They would invent all sorts of bullshit to rationalize it, such as declaring it's only because black people will go to prison for violent crime whereas white people are just let off (laughable).

Here is an article attempting to describe the controversy:

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... ikely.html

Fact is,white people are far less likely to commit violent crime. You can pull your little chest hairs out and parse a word salad to somehow blame that on white people (I know you will), but it really is beside the point. The horrific gun violence in our cities is largely a factor of concentration of black people. We can fucking argue about the reasons for that all day, but the fact remains, the more black people you have concentrated in an area, the worse it gets.

It kind of seems like a trend, judging by what's going on in places like London, so..